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the smoke radio

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for the masses headline edition july 8

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you're listening to fade to flag with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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welcome fate block

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bespoke radio

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for the

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masses yeah man

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today's tuesday february 9 2021

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40 days into the new year only 325 days

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of beautiful downtown burbank

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california

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and i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states hither and

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tether to and fro back and forth up and

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer network and kgra the planets

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i'm your host jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing

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all right now

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this is tv week here on fade to black

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scott walter host of america

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unearthed and he is joining us we're

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going to talk about the show

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and and everything else he's done on tv

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we'll be doing that tonight but

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tonight we're also going to be talking

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ufos with scott so get ready for all of

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and uh tomorrow night

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dave schrader is with us he's texting me

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as we speak

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and uh hold on

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just too funny

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okay all right dave schrader is with us

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tomorrow night along with

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giorgio suclose that's right so that's

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tomorrow night wrapping up tv week and

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is another fade or night open lines all

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and uh so what i mean it's just a

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perfect week it just puts me in the

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that's that's just uh an amazing week so

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much fun around here

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so that's uh that's the week and that is

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how we

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are doing things schrader i just told

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weather like man what are you doing

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you know how's life i'm like dave dave

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texting a show host while he is live

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on the air all right twitter

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twitter all day today i'm more on that

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in just a bit

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you want to start your social media

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now we've got a bunch of hashtags we

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have f2b which is the sandbox

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come and join the show live right there

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hashtag f2b

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pop it up right there for myself my

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anything for myself or scott pop it up

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and i i'll read it i'll see it because

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like john the alien is he really an

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alien an alien named john says hey

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what's the show on amazon

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what i have no idea what you just said

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right there or scott walter tonight we

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which is live uh more on that in just a

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and uh of course facebook hello we got

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on automation right it's all automated

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automated everything is set up you know

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could you imagine having to go to kgra

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or to talk stream live or or to spree

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and and no it's all automatic everything

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somebody get our passwords but nothing's

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um youtube still isn't completely

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so i know that we're streaming live uh

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tonight on youtube and and everywhere

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else and i can see it here

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seems to be something deleting the shows

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ends and we can't figure that out

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youtube says they're not doing it

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i've got three or four emails from them

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today it's not us

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it's not so we don't know we don't know

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why that

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uh so what it forces us into doing of

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long upload and it is a long

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process as the video processes but

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we're gonna figure it out okay email

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jimmy jimmychurchradio.com let's get to

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the breaking news

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very sad news today uh it was announced

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mary wilson one of the original members

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of the supremes of course the 1960s

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super group

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that helped define motown

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that's right died today she was

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76 years old and uh

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she died at her home in nevada and the

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she died late last night actually and

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the cause of death was not

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immediately released what a lot of

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and the supremes were

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so huge were so huge in the 60s

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they the only group

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that outsold them and i'm gonna say sort

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believe it or not and uh the supremes

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mega superstars and

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and mary wilson was was so cool um

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uh so bright such a beautiful person

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died at the very young age of 76. all

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right it was announced today that a

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japanese submarine

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collided with a commercial ship

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as it attempted to surface off of the

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country's pacific coast all of this

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happened earlier today three crew

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members from the maritime self-defense

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saw you suffered minor injuries and

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pictures from the japanese coast guard

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sustained damage to its fair water

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planes those wing-like

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the accident occurred off the main

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island of shikoku

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in southern japan the soryu commissioned

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in 2009 is the first in its class of

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electric powered submarines this place

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is about 3 000 tons and has a crew

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of around 65.

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i've thought about that so much

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all right you're out there in the open

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ocean and

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and you see those submarine surface all

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the time right you see them servings you

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think man what what

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what if there was a boat up there right

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what if there was a boat well it

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happened today

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off the coast of japan let's get the

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show cracking happy birthday to today

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the one the only

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joe pesci joe pesci

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today is 78 years old

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tom hiddleston today is 40

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and he plays loki in the avengers films

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and i believe there

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is a loki series

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about to be released now it's so hard to

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keep up with marvel it's so hard to keep

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but i believe i said to rita this is the

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universe

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this is weird like two days ago i said

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hey rita loki's got a series coming out

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and and i only caught it there's no

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media about it

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i happen to see a a trailer of

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uh of upcoming marvel stuff and it was

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split

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right there in the middle of it tucked

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away loki so

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i'll see what i can find out about that

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carol king that's right

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carol king today

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79 years old her 1971 album tapestry

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was number one for 15 straight

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weeks on billboard and remained

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on the charts for more than six years

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man and look at you you look at that

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album today

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and you look at the track listing

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everything was a hit that was a great

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album

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our i think was produced by uh that was

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uh that was lou adler

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yeah our dead guy's birthday today is

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jimmy the rev sullivan

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1981-2009 died at the age of 28.

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the rev was the drummer songwriter

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backing vocalist and founding member

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of avenged sevenfold

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at the second annual revolver golden god

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awards

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the rev won the award for best drummer

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in the ultimate guitar online readers

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poll

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of the top 10 greatest drummers of all

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time the rev

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appeared at number eight his early

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influences included frank zappa and king

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crimson

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and the rev stated in an interview once

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with modern drummer

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that he was raised on that stuff as much

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as

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rock and metal on december 28 2009 the

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rev was found

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unresponsive in his huntington beach

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home and was later pronounced dead upon

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arrival to the hospital toxicology

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results revealed

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that he had died from an overdose of

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oxycodone

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oxymorphone valium

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i don't even know what this other it's

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some valium derivative

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nor diazepam and alcohol

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incredible happy birthday the rev otd on

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this history

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on this day in history 1960

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the official groundbreaking ceremony

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is held for the hollywood walk of fame

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yep groundbreaking

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and the first star to be dedicated

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on that historic walkway on hollywood

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come on i want to see it pop up in

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twitter

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who had the first star on the hollywood

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walk of fame

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and you'd think it was around there

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forever it yeah 1960

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who had the first star on the hollywood

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walk of fame well i'm gonna tell you

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right now because nobody popped it up in

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weak

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joanne woodward and she was the academy

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award winner for the

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three faces of eve in 1957.

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there you go a little piece of trivia

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there fader fact

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in 1979 this is a man this is

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unbelievable but it's true

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in 1979 a woman named

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elvida adams jumped off the 86th

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but the wind pushed her back

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and she fell on the ledge on the 85th

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floor

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and she survived and that

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is your fader fact this is tv week here

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on fade to black tonight we have very

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special

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guest scott walter host of course of

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america unearthed and we love it when

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scott stops by but tonight we're talking

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ufos oh we're going to talk some tv

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don't worry about that

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but tonight we're going to be talking

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ufos with scott and he's been

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heading in this direction last six

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months i remember about a year ago

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had scott on the show and and the

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conversation just kind of i said scott

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are you going aliens on us and he goes

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man i i i

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i i think i am and that was about

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ancient history we were talking about

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the united states and things around the

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world and

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and scott went there

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he did well he's going there again so

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we're going to be doing that tonight

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tomorrow night we have giorgio sucralose

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of

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ancient aliens i think they're up to

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season 18.

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i can't believe i just said that and

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dave schrader is here of the holes or

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files

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and they are now in the middle of season

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three of the holzer files big hit show

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there too

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as well and then thursday night is

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another fader night with open lines all

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night long now

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let me hit this river moon coffee

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everything fine

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on uh youtube everything's fine i don't

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know anymore

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i don't know looks like we're still live

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okay

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all right all right we we depend on

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technology man

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we depend on it we take it so for

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granted

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it's just unbelievable one thing goes

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wrong

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i mean if if something went crazy with

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email

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what what will we do what what if some

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crazy thing happened where the the the

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code embedded in our phone

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suddenly got infected and we had no more

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texting

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oh man we depend on technology

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depend on it it's incredible incredible

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okay

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all right let me hit this river moon

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river moon wellness

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rivermoonwellness.com

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better hit this again

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i heard somewhere today

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that there's something going on in

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i saw it in passing that i guess there's

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right i guess

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i guess cause i just don't read the news

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man i don't give a crap

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but my social media feeds

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tell a different story

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it's just not there

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now um earlier today

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uh it was about an hour ago

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did did the impeachment trial start

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today

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i don't know i said hang on a second

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and and i you know and i'm like and i'm

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scrolling

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said it is not

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in social media i'm not on my feeds

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anywhere i

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anywhere

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it's mind-blowing it's mind-blowing for

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a couple of reasons and i'm going to get

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to the main reason in just a second

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but obviously

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there's a side

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out there that expected fireworks

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and they didn't get it disappointment

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so far right i mean because if it would

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have been something else you have to

449
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lit up and lit up every right but that

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didn't happen and then

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there's another side out there

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or we would see the text we would see

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the post

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isn't that interesting and then there's

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a

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is covering it um i

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i just didn't have a reason to check the

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news today i had a

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uh a couple of breaking stories that

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were fed to me and one of them was mary

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wilson of course and then this

462
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japanese submarine that was cool i i'm

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not gonna go

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and and and get polluted by the media i

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just don't do it

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folks listen to me i don't

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do it but it was interesting to me

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that i didn't see it on social media and

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there's a reason why i was on social

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media today

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because we announced the hashtag

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breaking ufo

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is

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and we've got it up in uh our

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our feeds right and and and

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and announced it and breaking ufo is

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their hashtag breaking ufo for facebook

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and for twitter

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if you've got an image that you just

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shot

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right you got a picture of something

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post it

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hashtag breaking ufo and that way not

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only

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can i see it and i can see the

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excitement of that

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that will go right and and then the

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community

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can go and look at it you need some

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analysis you need

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00:24:40,710 --> 00:24:39,039
other people to look at it maybe it's

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just amazing and you just want to share

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it and everybody can go wow that's i

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mean

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but that's one reason for breaking the

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ufo maybe you've got a video

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shot a video boom maybe you had an

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account or maybe you made contact you

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want to tell the story

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pop it up breaking ufo

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right and and it's a way for the

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community to get together

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00:25:06,950 --> 00:25:03,279
talk look at it analyze breaking ufo

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so uh hashtag breaking ufo again i want

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just to say to everybody it's simple

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hashtag breaking ufo rita came up with

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this idea and she said hey

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what we need you know hashtag f2b is one

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00:25:22,710 --> 00:25:20,080
thing but what we need for the community

510
00:25:25,029 --> 00:25:22,720
is we need a place for breaking ufo

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stories

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there it is right there and she's a

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hashtag breaking ufos and rita

514
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that's a great idea so

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uh we need a way to announce it what do

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you do you reach out to members of the

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community and of course we've got the

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greatest the best

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00:25:44,870 --> 00:25:43,039
artists out there with there's a few you

520
00:25:47,909 --> 00:25:44,880
know there's eric stitt

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and and for this we uh reached out to

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michael lohming

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and said hey breaking ufo can you do us

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a comic

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00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:57,760
up with this thing breaking

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and and and and michael and taki

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uh it's just perfection right and and

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00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:08,159
got that to us and again a member of the

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community and so

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we put all of that out there on social

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media and

532
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i'm looking through social media just to

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make sure that it's there and then it

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looks good and

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00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:19,440
people understand what the reason for it

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00:26:22,149 --> 00:26:20,400
is

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you know let's get the community

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00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:24,080
together we need a central place

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00:26:28,789 --> 00:26:27,039
for everybody to know breaking ufo says

540
00:26:31,669 --> 00:26:28,799
it all right it's breaking ufo

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boom done so while i'm doing all of that

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00:26:35,669 --> 00:26:33,120
today

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00:26:37,990 --> 00:26:35,679
i don't see anything about what's going

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00:26:40,789 --> 00:26:38,000
on in washington dc

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lots of pictures of food lots of

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pictures of pets

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00:26:46,310 --> 00:26:45,520
lots of pictures of snow and lots of

548
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pictures of

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family and comments and i didn't see

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00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:51,360
anything

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00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:00,390
so there you go breaking ufo

552
00:27:08,310 --> 00:27:05,990
nobody wanted to talk about washington

553
00:27:10,549 --> 00:27:08,320
dc everybody was talking about reagan

554
00:27:12,070 --> 00:27:10,559
ufo i think that's the fourth reason why

555
00:27:12,950 --> 00:27:12,080
i think we took over the internet with

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00:27:16,870 --> 00:27:12,960
that today

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00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:16,880
um now so what i have um

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00:27:20,549 --> 00:27:19,200
uh i use a tweet deck as everybody knows

559
00:27:22,149 --> 00:27:20,559
and if you don't have tweetdeck you

560
00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:22,159
should get it just go and download a

561
00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:24,000
tweet that can get it up and running and

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00:27:30,389 --> 00:27:27,440
and that's what you want to do with uh

563
00:27:32,070 --> 00:27:30,399
uh your twitter okay just just get just

564
00:27:35,190 --> 00:27:32,080
get tweetdeck it's amazing okay

565
00:27:37,669 --> 00:27:35,200
anyway so now i have five

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00:27:38,230 --> 00:27:37,679
columns in my tweet deck i've got myself

567
00:27:41,269 --> 00:27:38,240
i've got

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00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:41,279
the sandbox hashtag f2b i have hashtag

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f2bq fade to black questions

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and then i have rita uh here and then i

571
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have a fifth column now

572
00:27:53,669 --> 00:27:51,760
hashtag breaking ufo any breaking ufo

573
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stories pop it up right there

574
00:28:00,950 --> 00:27:57,120
it i'm serious it will just hit uh

575
00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:00,960
it'll hit my feed right in front of me

576
00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:04,399
hashtag breaking ufo and i think it's a

577
00:28:08,389 --> 00:28:05,600
great way

578
00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:08,399
for the community to share everything

579
00:28:15,990 --> 00:28:08,960
the

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breaking ufo

581
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we have lots of smart people in the ufo

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community whether it's video analysis

583
00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:24,399
it's history it's uh image analysis

584
00:28:30,950 --> 00:28:27,600
uh location uh all of that

585
00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:30,960
we have so many smart people

586
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and from from science and from

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uh consciousness and and contact we have

588
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all of just a huge community

589
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and if you've got something

590
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ufo related breaking and and you pop it

591
00:28:51,669 --> 00:28:48,760
up there it gives a chance for

592
00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:51,679
everybody to check it out

593
00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:54,159
everybody can go and take a look at it

594
00:28:56,789 --> 00:28:56,320
okay and so today we broke the story our

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first

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00:29:01,269 --> 00:29:00,159
one is a scott walter and i posted up uh

597
00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:01,279
pictures

598
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:03,120
of of scott now we're gonna be talking

599
00:29:06,789 --> 00:29:04,960
about this tonight scott will be with us

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here in just a few minutes

601
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um and the short version of this

602
00:29:15,510 --> 00:29:13,360
and this is the perfect reason for

603
00:29:18,870 --> 00:29:15,520
breaking ufo

604
00:29:19,909 --> 00:29:18,880
scott was filming in utah 2014 america

605
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unearthed

606
00:29:25,750 --> 00:29:23,200
and one of the viewers was watching

607
00:29:27,029 --> 00:29:25,760
that particular episode and saw an

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object in the sky

609
00:29:30,630 --> 00:29:29,600
in the background let scott know about

610
00:29:32,549 --> 00:29:30,640
it scott goes back

611
00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:32,559
pulls up the the footage and takes a

612
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look at a contact some of his team

613
00:29:37,590 --> 00:29:35,279
members

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of america on earth and and they're

615
00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:39,120
taking a look at we're waiting for the

616
00:29:43,830 --> 00:29:40,559
hybrid but

617
00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:43,840
that's the example of breaking ufo

618
00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:45,840
now i don't know what's in this image

619
00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:47,520
and i've seen the video and i've got the

620
00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:49,360
video right up here in front of me

621
00:29:53,350 --> 00:29:51,520
and i've seen the video and i'm checking

622
00:29:54,070 --> 00:29:53,360
it out and it's pretty interesting well

623
00:29:57,350 --> 00:29:54,080
what do you do

624
00:30:01,110 --> 00:29:57,360
with that hashtag breaking ufo

625
00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:01,120
that's what you do okay whatever

626
00:30:07,909 --> 00:30:04,720
it is hashtag breaking

627
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ufo i am your host jimmy church this is

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fade to black

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before i get out of here i want to

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remind everybody coming up

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next weekend conscious life expo

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all right it's february 19th through the

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21st i am hosting

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i want you to go to jimmychurchradio.com

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click on the banners get over

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get your tickets get your passes we did

637
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uh

638
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and i've got to say this is this is

639
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pretty cool

640
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so i'll be hosting from a separate

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studio

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all right not from here whoa

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um not from here

644
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i should have hosted it from here now

645
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that i think about it but nah

646
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nah so uh but we got all that done a lot

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of work

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uh has been put into this i want you to

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go to the banners at

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i'm going to get out of here take a

652
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quick break i'll be right back with

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tonight's guest

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scott walter it is night two

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[Music]

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of tv week here on fade to black tonight

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scott walter host of america unearthed

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tomorrow night two guests first up

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giorgio suculos from ancient aliens

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second up dave schroeder of the holzer

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to block i'm your host

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jimmy church

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all right this is

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tv week here on fade to black and

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tonight very special guest scott

779
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walter host of america on earth joins us

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can't have tv week on pay to black

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without scott walter what kind of

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show would this be tomorrow night

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we have giorgio suclose of ancient

784
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aliens and

785
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dave schrader of the holzer files

786
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now there's even a little connection

787
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between

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schroeder and and and walter we'll talk

789
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about that

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00:37:20,310 --> 00:37:18,480
in just a bit too as well thursday night

791
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is another fader night with open lights

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all night long tonight it's all about

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scott

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tv host researcher author normally we

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talk about lost history and we will

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tonight

797
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but i think we're going to talk ufos et

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contact and disclosure with scott walter

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looking forward to this

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00:37:43,510 --> 00:37:40,480
and now this is the deal uh scott is a

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a a very good friend of the show and has

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been

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hanging with us for i don't know how

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00:37:50,710 --> 00:37:47,359
many years and

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and every night that he's on we learn

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something

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00:37:54,550 --> 00:37:53,200
all right now this is the deal this is

808
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what i'm going to say to scott i'm going

809
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to bring in scott before i just

810
00:38:00,790 --> 00:37:59,359
read and go through his bio again i'm

811
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not going to do that i'm going to say

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00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:02,400
this i'm going to say good evening scott

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how are you

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i'm doing great jim it's uh it's great

815
00:38:11,109 --> 00:38:08,320
to be with you tonight i'm

816
00:38:11,829 --> 00:38:11,119
really looking forward to uh to our our

817
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:11,839
chat

818
00:38:17,430 --> 00:38:14,960
now this is this is i'm going to share

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with you a thought that i had

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00:38:24,310 --> 00:38:20,880
about you a few years ago all right

821
00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:24,320
and yeah and this is the

822
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the the power of television is one thing

823
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the the your show america on earth

824
00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:31,040
taught

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00:38:37,829 --> 00:38:34,480
people stuff but i think

826
00:38:42,310 --> 00:38:37,839
this this is this was my thought

827
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:42,320
you should have had after each episode

828
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:46,960
a test you should have had a test

829
00:38:53,190 --> 00:38:50,640
and they had to pass the test

830
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if they wanted to see the next episode

831
00:38:56,790 --> 00:38:54,560
oh i love that idea

832
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that's what you should have i mean think

833
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about that

834
00:39:02,710 --> 00:39:00,480
okay i'm just sharing my idea with you

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the power of marketing it's all about

836
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marketing

837
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but but you should have had a test

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because people

839
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learned you know i learned but you

840
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you know you got to retain you got to

841
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retain it you got to retain

842
00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:15,760
it you should have had a test should i

843
00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:17,599
had a test scott

844
00:39:21,910 --> 00:39:19,760
well that would have made people think

845
00:39:23,510 --> 00:39:21,920
about it a little bit more and and maybe

846
00:39:25,349 --> 00:39:23,520
take a few notes

847
00:39:27,829 --> 00:39:25,359
and actually jim you know that's that's

848
00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:27,839
not a bad idea i mean for a television

849
00:39:31,109 --> 00:39:29,520
show is to say hey

850
00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:31,119
we're going to present some information

851
00:39:33,990 --> 00:39:32,560
here we're going to tell you a story or

852
00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:34,000
investigate something

853
00:39:37,589 --> 00:39:35,200
and then we're going to quiz you at the

854
00:39:39,190 --> 00:39:37,599
end to see how much you were paying

855
00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:39,200
attention and you know one of the things

856
00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:40,640
that might happen

857
00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:42,880
is some of the people in the audience

858
00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:44,480
may notice something

859
00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:46,800
that the brilliant host missed or you

860
00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:48,480
know the production company missed you

861
00:39:52,230 --> 00:39:50,000
never know what might happen

862
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:52,240
you never know and and this is the other

863
00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:53,040
thing

864
00:39:56,950 --> 00:39:54,960
um and don't think i haven't noticed

865
00:39:58,790 --> 00:39:56,960
this about you scott

866
00:40:00,310 --> 00:39:58,800
and i'm sure the audience has picked it

867
00:40:02,870 --> 00:40:00,320
up over the years

868
00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:02,880
there's you have got a crutch and let me

869
00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:04,480
tell you what the crutch is

870
00:40:08,790 --> 00:40:07,440
the crutch is um you're so comfortable

871
00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:08,800
with me

872
00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:10,720
and we always have great conversations

873
00:40:15,910 --> 00:40:12,240
but we'll go through

874
00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:15,920
the show and like twice a night

875
00:40:20,069 --> 00:40:17,920
you will turn around and ask me a

876
00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:20,079
question

877
00:40:23,829 --> 00:40:22,720
knowing knowing that i don't know the

878
00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:23,839
answer

879
00:40:27,270 --> 00:40:26,400
no no no no no no no no no no that might

880
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:27,280
be true

881
00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:30,400
oh it is true it is true and i am stuck

882
00:40:36,390 --> 00:40:33,040
going uh i don't know scott uh why don't

883
00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:38,950
i would never do such a thing on purpose

884
00:40:44,470 --> 00:40:41,680
totally by accident

885
00:40:46,230 --> 00:40:44,480
you know what jim all kidding aside we

886
00:40:48,630 --> 00:40:46,240
do that because we get along

887
00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:48,640
we respect each other we have fun you

888
00:40:52,470 --> 00:40:50,400
know that i'm not trying to put you on

889
00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:52,480
the spot and and make you look bad

890
00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:54,960
and even if i tried you would i mean you

891
00:40:57,910 --> 00:40:56,640
would flip it around on me so fast i

892
00:40:59,910 --> 00:40:57,920
wouldn't even know which one

893
00:41:01,510 --> 00:40:59,920
which end was up no i know what you're

894
00:41:02,470 --> 00:41:01,520
doing you're covering up the phone and

895
00:41:05,910 --> 00:41:02,480
looking at jan

896
00:41:08,150 --> 00:41:05,920
going i got jimmy no she's laughing

897
00:41:11,990 --> 00:41:08,160
right now

898
00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:12,000
oh man well the the power of tv

899
00:41:16,630 --> 00:41:14,800
and this is what um you know tomorrow

900
00:41:20,710 --> 00:41:16,640
night we have giorgio on the show

901
00:41:24,069 --> 00:41:20,720
and there is no question at all

902
00:41:27,589 --> 00:41:24,079
what um ancient aliens

903
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:27,599
has done for all of television not only

904
00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:29,520
the ufo community

905
00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:32,240
but but all of television blew down the

906
00:41:34,870 --> 00:41:32,800
doors

907
00:41:35,829 --> 00:41:34,880
and allowed all of this programming to

908
00:41:38,550 --> 00:41:35,839
come in

909
00:41:39,670 --> 00:41:38,560
because all of the networks everyone it

910
00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:39,680
doesn't matter

911
00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:42,160
it does not matter about the network

912
00:41:46,390 --> 00:41:42,800
they all

913
00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:46,400
know that people want this information

914
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:48,240
they want ancient history

915
00:41:52,309 --> 00:41:50,400
they want lost history they want to know

916
00:41:54,150 --> 00:41:52,319
about e.t and contact

917
00:41:55,589 --> 00:41:54,160
they want to know about consciousness

918
00:41:58,470 --> 00:41:55,599
they want to know

919
00:42:00,309 --> 00:41:58,480
these things and it allowed

920
00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:00,319
opportunities for so many

921
00:42:06,870 --> 00:42:03,599
like yourself right to come in because

922
00:42:09,030 --> 00:42:06,880
uh it's the network's recognizing

923
00:42:09,910 --> 00:42:09,040
but it's the other side what supports

924
00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:09,920
the networks

925
00:42:16,150 --> 00:42:12,960
advertising the advertisers know where

926
00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:16,160
where the action is right and they they

927
00:42:19,589 --> 00:42:18,640
are demanding this program to come

928
00:42:22,069 --> 00:42:19,599
through

929
00:42:22,870 --> 00:42:22,079
and and that is the power of television

930
00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:22,880
people want

931
00:42:27,270 --> 00:42:25,760
information now you know they still like

932
00:42:29,990 --> 00:42:27,280
to laugh they like comedies

933
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:30,000
but information right that's exactly the

934
00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:31,680
power of television

935
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:33,760
absolutely they want to learn they want

936
00:42:37,589 --> 00:42:35,280
to be entertained and

937
00:42:39,589 --> 00:42:37,599
people are entertained in in different

938
00:42:41,990 --> 00:42:39,599
ways you know and for me

939
00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:42,000
i want to learn things you know i like

940
00:42:45,510 --> 00:42:42,960
to see

941
00:42:47,829 --> 00:42:45,520
it presented in a clever fun beautiful

942
00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:47,839
way but i i wan i want something to chew

943
00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:49,760
on when i'm all done that makes me think

944
00:42:53,670 --> 00:42:50,480
you know

945
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:53,680
now um one of uh one of the things

946
00:43:00,550 --> 00:42:57,119
that i enjoy is

947
00:43:02,550 --> 00:43:00,560
when you uh are are

948
00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:02,560
out there in social media now it could

949
00:43:07,349 --> 00:43:03,599
be the follow-up of

950
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:07,359
uh of a show or or or somebody asking

951
00:43:12,630 --> 00:43:08,640
you a question

952
00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:12,640
but it is the engagement that you get

953
00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:14,880
from people wanting to know these

954
00:43:19,349 --> 00:43:16,240
answers i mean it's

955
00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:19,359
crazy isn't it how many people now turn

956
00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:20,400
to you

957
00:43:23,829 --> 00:43:22,240
when they have a question and that is

958
00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:23,839
again the power of television and

959
00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:24,319
knowledge

960
00:43:28,870 --> 00:43:27,520
yeah yeah and you know what and we

961
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:28,880
although at the end of the shows we

962
00:43:31,750 --> 00:43:30,480
always ask for people if you've got an

963
00:43:33,829 --> 00:43:31,760
artifactor site

964
00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:33,839
i need to see you know get in touch with

965
00:43:39,750 --> 00:43:36,400
us but i have people that email me

966
00:43:42,390 --> 00:43:39,760
every single day um literally every day

967
00:43:44,069 --> 00:43:42,400
multiple times a day some people will

968
00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:44,079
call me they will text me they will

969
00:43:48,309 --> 00:43:46,560
contact me with questions with artifacts

970
00:43:50,550 --> 00:43:48,319
hey what kind of a rock is this is this

971
00:43:52,950 --> 00:43:50,560
a man-made mark on the stone

972
00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:52,960
and you know most of the time frankly

973
00:43:56,550 --> 00:43:54,000
it's it's it's

974
00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:56,560
it's nothing but you know people are

975
00:44:00,390 --> 00:43:58,160
curious they don't know

976
00:44:03,030 --> 00:44:00,400
and every now and then people contact me

977
00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:03,040
with something that's incredible

978
00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:05,200
so you know and it's hard sometimes to

979
00:44:07,750 --> 00:44:06,240
keep up and

980
00:44:09,430 --> 00:44:07,760
and i just want to say to people out

981
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:09,440
there i do appreciate

982
00:44:13,510 --> 00:44:11,440
everybody that tries to reach out to me

983
00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:13,520
but i'm only one person and i can't get

984
00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:15,119
back to everybody so

985
00:44:19,510 --> 00:44:18,000
i apologize for that but hey jimmy can i

986
00:44:21,750 --> 00:44:19,520
just ask you a quick favor

987
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:21,760
can you just greet uh giorgio for me

988
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:22,800
tomorrow

989
00:44:27,190 --> 00:44:25,440
um i i can't say that i'm a close friend

990
00:44:29,430 --> 00:44:27,200
of his but i met him at a conference

991
00:44:30,870 --> 00:44:29,440
once about four or five years ago

992
00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:30,880
and he came up to me and gave me the

993
00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:33,280
biggest hug and then we went in the bar

994
00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:35,440
and we sat down and we had some wine and

995
00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:38,160
we chatted and we had so much fun

996
00:44:41,190 --> 00:44:39,760
the next thing i knew it was two o'clock

997
00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:41,200
in the morning and i looked at my

998
00:44:45,670 --> 00:44:44,319
my watch or my phone i go georgio i said

999
00:44:47,349 --> 00:44:45,680
i got a lecture at nine in the morning i

1000
00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:47,359
got to go to bed man and

1001
00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:50,560
and i just had so much fun with him and

1002
00:44:55,510 --> 00:44:52,319
he was such a genuinely

1003
00:44:56,710 --> 00:44:55,520
friendly and intelligent guy and uh if

1004
00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:56,720
you could just greet him for me i'd

1005
00:45:01,990 --> 00:44:58,880
really appreciate yeah i i will do that

1006
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:02,000
and you bring up a really good point um

1007
00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:03,520
you know last night we had on billy

1008
00:45:06,390 --> 00:45:05,520
carson and you know tonight at you

1009
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:06,400
tomorrow night

1010
00:45:12,550 --> 00:45:09,520
uh two other just genuine uh

1011
00:45:13,750 --> 00:45:12,560
people you know giorgio and and dave

1012
00:45:17,349 --> 00:45:13,760
schrader right

1013
00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:17,359
and when when people i i think that

1014
00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:19,760
you know giorgio and his hair and his

1015
00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:22,079
image and the marketing behind him

1016
00:45:28,470 --> 00:45:25,599
he has become uh a genuine celebrity

1017
00:45:30,069 --> 00:45:28,480
uh you know and out of the you know the

1018
00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:30,079
alien the ufo

1019
00:45:33,349 --> 00:45:32,000
circle for that to happen is pretty

1020
00:45:36,069 --> 00:45:33,359
extraordinary

1021
00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:36,079
but i think everybody finds out that

1022
00:45:39,270 --> 00:45:37,119
once they meet

1023
00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:39,280
giorgio and and if they have the

1024
00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:40,560
opportunity to

1025
00:45:45,750 --> 00:45:42,400
he's one of the coolest cats out there

1026
00:45:46,069 --> 00:45:45,760
man he is he is i was really surprised

1027
00:45:47,829 --> 00:45:46,079
and

1028
00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:47,839
you know i had never met him prior to

1029
00:45:50,309 --> 00:45:49,359
that but of course i'd seen him on

1030
00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:50,319
television

1031
00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:52,560
and you're right he has this persona

1032
00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:54,319
it's a character right

1033
00:45:59,990 --> 00:45:57,599
and you forget that a lot of times

1034
00:46:01,430 --> 00:46:00,000
the person that people see on television

1035
00:46:04,870 --> 00:46:01,440
is not necessarily

1036
00:46:06,630 --> 00:46:04,880
who they are in real life not always and

1037
00:46:08,230 --> 00:46:06,640
um i think he's a great guy on

1038
00:46:10,870 --> 00:46:08,240
television but he's an even

1039
00:46:11,829 --> 00:46:10,880
even better person off camera and and in

1040
00:46:14,309 --> 00:46:11,839
the real world

1041
00:46:16,470 --> 00:46:14,319
and he had you know he there was nothing

1042
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:16,480
that i could do for him he just was a

1043
00:46:19,990 --> 00:46:19,280
fellow guy on the network and apparently

1044
00:46:22,710 --> 00:46:20,000
he liked

1045
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:22,720
you know what we do and we just hit it

1046
00:46:25,349 --> 00:46:23,040
off

1047
00:46:27,030 --> 00:46:25,359
and and had a great time and i just tell

1048
00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:27,040
them i look forward to the next time and

1049
00:46:29,349 --> 00:46:27,359
uh

1050
00:46:34,790 --> 00:46:29,359
tell them i'll buy the wine next time

1051
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:39,750
what do you mean i mean okay

1052
00:46:43,270 --> 00:46:42,309
is that what i'm hearing yeah see this

1053
00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:43,280
is the deal

1054
00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:46,640
with you scott um with

1055
00:46:52,230 --> 00:46:49,920
your presentations on on

1056
00:46:53,510 --> 00:46:52,240
on america on earth and and the other

1057
00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:53,520
stuff that you've done

1058
00:46:58,470 --> 00:46:56,720
the um uh you're intense

1059
00:46:59,750 --> 00:46:58,480
you're intense man you're out there

1060
00:47:03,270 --> 00:46:59,760
getting it done

1061
00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:03,280
and you're tall you're intimidating and

1062
00:47:07,270 --> 00:47:05,040
i think that a lot of people think

1063
00:47:10,870 --> 00:47:07,280
that's the way that you are

1064
00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:10,880
in real and you're the exact opposite

1065
00:47:14,069 --> 00:47:13,440
well i can be that way i mean you know i

1066
00:47:15,829 --> 00:47:14,079
mean when i

1067
00:47:17,990 --> 00:47:15,839
i will tell you this when i get dialed

1068
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:18,000
in um

1069
00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:20,000
you know when i'm doing research or i'm

1070
00:47:25,349 --> 00:47:22,480
out in the field and i'm doing my work

1071
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:25,359
i i i'm dialed in you know but at the

1072
00:47:30,470 --> 00:47:27,760
same time you have to have fun i mean

1073
00:47:31,349 --> 00:47:30,480
life is life is about having a good time

1074
00:47:33,349 --> 00:47:31,359
for me

1075
00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:33,359
research and investigations and doing

1076
00:47:37,589 --> 00:47:34,400
what i do

1077
00:47:39,670 --> 00:47:37,599
and being intense with er at it

1078
00:47:40,950 --> 00:47:39,680
it's fun for me but on the other hand

1079
00:47:44,069 --> 00:47:40,960
you know there's also

1080
00:47:46,549 --> 00:47:44,079
and uh

1081
00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:46,559
and relax and and enjoy being with your

1082
00:47:49,670 --> 00:47:47,760
friends and and

1083
00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:49,680
you know you're a friend and i enjoy the

1084
00:47:52,790 --> 00:47:50,960
time that we're together

1085
00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:52,800
we're not doing anything super intense

1086
00:47:58,390 --> 00:47:54,720
here we're just having a conversation

1087
00:47:59,349 --> 00:47:58,400
having fun and it's easy now i wanted to

1088
00:48:01,030 --> 00:47:59,359
ask you this

1089
00:48:02,309 --> 00:48:01,040
and you're and and you're absolutely

1090
00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:02,319
right about that by the way you're

1091
00:48:05,349 --> 00:48:03,599
absolutely right

1092
00:48:07,589 --> 00:48:05,359
um i i would never want to be on your

1093
00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:07,599
bad side you know what i would never

1094
00:48:14,470 --> 00:48:11,200
i would never want you to investigate me

1095
00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:14,480
that that would not end well okay is

1096
00:48:16,710 --> 00:48:16,000
this i'd have to sit you down and go

1097
00:48:18,630 --> 00:48:16,720
brother

1098
00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:18,640
uh we have to have a talk here all right

1099
00:48:22,549 --> 00:48:20,400
little step

1100
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:22,559
you might want to dial it back oh no it

1101
00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:23,760
would be it would be

1102
00:48:28,069 --> 00:48:26,240
friendly and easy tonight jimmy i'm

1103
00:48:30,549 --> 00:48:28,079
taking you to the mason lodge

1104
00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:30,559
and we're going to set you straight bro

1105
00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:31,760
i'm going to sit you down

1106
00:48:38,309 --> 00:48:34,880
let's have a sit down um um uh

1107
00:48:39,829 --> 00:48:38,319
oh the other day um i'm driving around

1108
00:48:41,829 --> 00:48:39,839
here in the valley

1109
00:48:43,829 --> 00:48:41,839
um i'm just gonna make this really quick

1110
00:48:44,069 --> 00:48:43,839
i was i was driving with rita oh go for

1111
00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:44,079
it

1112
00:48:47,589 --> 00:48:47,200
and uh and i drove by a mason lodge and

1113
00:48:51,109 --> 00:48:47,599
i've

1114
00:48:51,510 --> 00:48:51,119
never seen it before and i just turned

1115
00:48:55,270 --> 00:48:51,520
and

1116
00:48:57,910 --> 00:48:55,280
rita the mason lodge

1117
00:48:58,390 --> 00:48:57,920
and and it was just it was strange i

1118
00:49:00,470 --> 00:48:58,400
never

1119
00:49:01,510 --> 00:49:00,480
i thought i knew every building of every

1120
00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:01,520
street

1121
00:49:05,750 --> 00:49:04,079
uh in the entire san fernando valley and

1122
00:49:08,230 --> 00:49:05,760
i drove right by mason lodge

1123
00:49:10,150 --> 00:49:08,240
okay is this scott you know what i will

1124
00:49:13,109 --> 00:49:10,160
just say this

1125
00:49:15,109 --> 00:49:13,119
that is really the intent of masonry we

1126
00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:15,119
want to do good work and be involved in

1127
00:49:19,270 --> 00:49:16,960
our community but we want to be

1128
00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:19,280
you know we we don't stand out in front

1129
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:20,079
we kind of sit

1130
00:49:23,109 --> 00:49:22,079
sit in the back and and do the work and

1131
00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:23,119
and just not

1132
00:49:27,670 --> 00:49:26,000
say much so that's that's the way the

1133
00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:27,680
lodges are they just sort of creep

1134
00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:29,520
up on you and it's like oh wow there it

1135
00:49:32,630 --> 00:49:31,599
is but there's a lot of good work being

1136
00:49:35,910 --> 00:49:32,640
done in those buildings

1137
00:49:36,630 --> 00:49:35,920
uh one day i'm gonna say this to the

1138
00:49:40,549 --> 00:49:36,640
audience

1139
00:49:44,069 --> 00:49:40,559
right now one day maybe soon

1140
00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:44,079
i've got to go and and hang out

1141
00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:47,280
i've i've got to go into and

1142
00:49:52,309 --> 00:49:50,720
and go through uh a meeting

1143
00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:52,319
i need to reach out i need to find

1144
00:49:56,390 --> 00:49:53,760
somebody to invite me i

1145
00:49:57,589 --> 00:49:56,400
i just want to go there's all of this

1146
00:49:59,670 --> 00:49:57,599
stuff that's out there

1147
00:50:01,349 --> 00:49:59,680
right hey hey let me tell you something

1148
00:50:01,990 --> 00:50:01,359
you don't have to have somebody invite

1149
00:50:05,829 --> 00:50:02,000
you

1150
00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:05,839
the door

1151
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:07,839
and believe me you would be welcomed

1152
00:50:11,109 --> 00:50:09,280
with open arms

1153
00:50:13,109 --> 00:50:11,119
i cannot let jimmy church just walk

1154
00:50:14,710 --> 00:50:13,119
through those doors

1155
00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:14,720
that's right because we got we got to

1156
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:16,880
bet you first

1157
00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:19,040
no i mean seriously you know that's one

1158
00:50:22,710 --> 00:50:20,319
of the things that is

1159
00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:22,720
is a a common misconception about

1160
00:50:26,069 --> 00:50:23,920
freemasonry

1161
00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:26,079
and part of it is due to the brothers of

1162
00:50:29,349 --> 00:50:27,200
the past

1163
00:50:30,870 --> 00:50:29,359
that we're very secretive and you know

1164
00:50:33,270 --> 00:50:30,880
we don't talk about it

1165
00:50:35,109 --> 00:50:33,280
and you know to be quite frank with you

1166
00:50:37,589 --> 00:50:35,119
there's no reason for that

1167
00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:37,599
and if we want to make more masons which

1168
00:50:40,150 --> 00:50:39,520
i think the world would be better off

1169
00:50:42,069 --> 00:50:40,160
with

1170
00:50:43,510 --> 00:50:42,079
we need to let people know who we are

1171
00:50:44,950 --> 00:50:43,520
and i've i've said this to the

1172
00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:44,960
leadership and

1173
00:50:49,109 --> 00:50:47,520
um in the cu you know around the country

1174
00:50:51,829 --> 00:50:49,119
and and they understand that

1175
00:50:52,950 --> 00:50:51,839
and but but it's never been hey you know

1176
00:50:54,870 --> 00:50:52,960
we'll invite you

1177
00:50:57,030 --> 00:50:54,880
we'll we'll pick the people we want it's

1178
00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:57,040
not like that if you're interested

1179
00:51:00,150 --> 00:50:59,040
you inquire and just say hey i'd like to

1180
00:51:02,950 --> 00:51:00,160
learn more

1181
00:51:04,710 --> 00:51:02,960
and uh and we'll get going and what i

1182
00:51:05,190 --> 00:51:04,720
would say to people if they do have an

1183
00:51:09,109 --> 00:51:05,200
interest

1184
00:51:10,150 --> 00:51:09,119
is just google grand lodge of whatever

1185
00:51:12,710 --> 00:51:10,160
state you have

1186
00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:12,720
and uh get the number and give them a

1187
00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:13,200
call

1188
00:51:17,030 --> 00:51:14,640
and believe me they'll be more than

1189
00:51:18,630 --> 00:51:17,040
happy to uh to help you

1190
00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:18,640
you know get the process started if

1191
00:51:21,829 --> 00:51:20,160
you're genuinely interested

1192
00:51:23,190 --> 00:51:21,839
and if you meet a couple of the guys or

1193
00:51:26,470 --> 00:51:23,200
you come to a

1194
00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:26,480
uh a meeting and it's not for you hey no

1195
00:51:29,510 --> 00:51:28,800
no harm no foul thank you for inquiring

1196
00:51:33,750 --> 00:51:29,520
and

1197
00:51:36,630 --> 00:51:33,760
you know how it is though

1198
00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:36,640
right where you know like look at tom

1199
00:51:40,390 --> 00:51:37,680
delong

1200
00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:40,400
right so he gets up on stage he's got

1201
00:51:44,390 --> 00:51:41,280
his guitar

1202
00:51:47,190 --> 00:51:44,400
and it's got a mason sticker on it right

1203
00:51:47,589 --> 00:51:47,200
yeah and and immediately the room i knew

1204
00:51:53,829 --> 00:51:47,599
it

1205
00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:53,839
he's he's oh no oh he's one of them he's

1206
00:51:58,309 --> 00:51:54,640
one of them

1207
00:52:00,790 --> 00:51:58,319
yeah yeah you know it's it's

1208
00:52:02,470 --> 00:52:00,800
you'd be surprised even in today's world

1209
00:52:05,190 --> 00:52:02,480
there are a lot of guys

1210
00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:05,200
that are out there that are masons and

1211
00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:06,400
um

1212
00:52:10,230 --> 00:52:09,119
and and they're really really good guys

1213
00:52:12,230 --> 00:52:10,240
and i think there's

1214
00:52:13,910 --> 00:52:12,240
a lot of people that kind of wonder

1215
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:13,920
about it and certain people have heard

1216
00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:14,720
things

1217
00:52:19,030 --> 00:52:16,640
that are negative about the masons but

1218
00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:19,040
just remember something okay

1219
00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:23,280
our country was founded by freemasonry

1220
00:52:28,549 --> 00:52:26,480
period fact end of story

1221
00:52:31,829 --> 00:52:28,559
that's it and if anybody wants to argue

1222
00:52:33,109 --> 00:52:31,839
it i will just point out one simple fact

1223
00:52:36,630 --> 00:52:33,119
53

1224
00:52:39,670 --> 00:52:36,640
of the 56 signers of the declaration

1225
00:52:43,510 --> 00:52:39,680
were freemasons now

1226
00:52:45,829 --> 00:52:43,520
um they were all masons essentially well

1227
00:52:46,790 --> 00:52:45,839
we have um and i think i mentioned this

1228
00:52:49,910 --> 00:52:46,800
to you before

1229
00:52:52,309 --> 00:52:49,920
in in in passing but uh

1230
00:52:53,990 --> 00:52:52,319
uh we have a family member that's a

1231
00:52:57,190 --> 00:52:54,000
knights templar

1232
00:53:00,150 --> 00:52:57,200
right and i never knew this

1233
00:53:01,349 --> 00:53:00,160
and and one day we're sitting on our

1234
00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:01,359
back patio

1235
00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:04,319
right and uh and sitting at the table

1236
00:53:09,190 --> 00:53:06,240
and i see the ring

1237
00:53:10,069 --> 00:53:09,200
and i'm like uh that's that's a nice

1238
00:53:20,710 --> 00:53:10,079
looking ring

1239
00:53:24,069 --> 00:53:23,109
then i couldn't take my eye off of it

1240
00:53:30,549 --> 00:53:24,079
and

1241
00:53:31,750 --> 00:53:30,559
he never never talked about it i didn't

1242
00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:31,760
know

1243
00:53:40,630 --> 00:53:38,720
maybe i can get him to invite me ah

1244
00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:40,640
you don't have to be invited you don't

1245
00:53:43,829 --> 00:53:42,240
have to just just

1246
00:53:45,670 --> 00:53:43,839
just call grand lodge and say i'm

1247
00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:45,680
interested in uh

1248
00:53:49,109 --> 00:53:48,000
possibly becoming a mason what do i do

1249
00:53:50,230 --> 00:53:49,119
that's all you got to do you don't have

1250
00:53:52,069 --> 00:53:50,240
to be invited

1251
00:53:54,390 --> 00:53:52,079
that's that's that's that's

1252
00:53:56,309 --> 00:53:54,400
misconception can i bypass

1253
00:53:57,589 --> 00:53:56,319
masonry and go straight to knights

1254
00:54:00,390 --> 00:53:57,599
templar

1255
00:54:03,990 --> 00:54:00,400
uh no no you can't you can't right and

1256
00:54:05,910 --> 00:54:04,000
by the way jimmy i'm a i'm a templar too

1257
00:54:08,230 --> 00:54:05,920
i have been knighted uh within the york

1258
00:54:09,589 --> 00:54:08,240
right order and and it just real quick

1259
00:54:11,190 --> 00:54:09,599
and i know that i didn't want to get too

1260
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:11,200
far into this but

1261
00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:13,680
when you join masonry the first thing

1262
00:54:17,109 --> 00:54:15,040
you do is you go through what we call

1263
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:17,119
the blue lodge which is the first three

1264
00:54:20,470 --> 00:54:18,240
degrees

1265
00:54:21,589 --> 00:54:20,480
uh entered apprentice fellow craft and

1266
00:54:23,670 --> 00:54:21,599
master mason

1267
00:54:25,990 --> 00:54:23,680
and once you go through and you become a

1268
00:54:28,150 --> 00:54:26,000
master mason

1269
00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:28,160
you are you're on the squad you're fully

1270
00:54:32,150 --> 00:54:30,319
vested you are a freemason

1271
00:54:33,589 --> 00:54:32,160
you have all the rights and privileges

1272
00:54:36,789 --> 00:54:33,599
that anybody else does

1273
00:54:39,430 --> 00:54:36,799
and so that's that's that now

1274
00:54:39,910 --> 00:54:39,440
if you are interested in the way we put

1275
00:54:42,309 --> 00:54:39,920
it is

1276
00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:42,319
seeking additional light knowledge

1277
00:54:47,430 --> 00:54:44,480
that's a code word for knowledge

1278
00:54:49,990 --> 00:54:47,440
then you can uh pursue two different

1279
00:54:52,069 --> 00:54:50,000
branches one is called the scottish rite

1280
00:54:53,990 --> 00:54:52,079
which builds off the blue lodge so the

1281
00:54:55,270 --> 00:54:54,000
first degree of the scottish rite is the

1282
00:54:57,190 --> 00:54:55,280
fourth degree

1283
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:57,200
there's 29 additional degrees and

1284
00:55:02,549 --> 00:54:59,760
eventually you become a 32nd degree

1285
00:55:03,030 --> 00:55:02,559
which i have done you get your black hat

1286
00:55:06,630 --> 00:55:03,040
and

1287
00:55:09,670 --> 00:55:06,640
the 33rd is an honorary thing that

1288
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:09,680
is bestowed on certain individuals

1289
00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:12,000
by the supreme council and all i can say

1290
00:55:16,150 --> 00:55:14,000
is if you talk about it you'll never get

1291
00:55:18,069 --> 00:55:16,160
it so i'm going to stop talking about it

1292
00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:18,079
the the other route you can take is

1293
00:55:19,990 --> 00:55:19,680
something called the york right and

1294
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:20,000
again

1295
00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:21,839
that builds off the blue light so the

1296
00:55:26,309 --> 00:55:23,280
first degree

1297
00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:26,319
is uh the fourth degree and there are

1298
00:55:29,589 --> 00:55:28,480
three groups of degrees in the royal

1299
00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:29,599
arch or

1300
00:55:32,789 --> 00:55:31,680
in the york right the royal arch which

1301
00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:32,799
is four degrees

1302
00:55:35,990 --> 00:55:35,359
the cryptic council which is three and

1303
00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:36,000
then the

1304
00:55:40,150 --> 00:55:38,880
the templar degrees um and the last

1305
00:55:42,549 --> 00:55:40,160
degree and that's three

1306
00:55:44,549 --> 00:55:42,559
the final one is the knights templar

1307
00:55:47,349 --> 00:55:44,559
degree and i have done that as well

1308
00:55:48,230 --> 00:55:47,359
and there's all kinds of cool things in

1309
00:55:50,630 --> 00:55:48,240
the in the

1310
00:55:52,950 --> 00:55:50,640
the degrees which are made up of part

1311
00:55:53,750 --> 00:55:52,960
theatrical performance we dress up and

1312
00:55:56,789 --> 00:55:53,760
have fun

1313
00:55:59,910 --> 00:55:56,799
and put on little plays and

1314
00:56:02,230 --> 00:55:59,920
part lecture and uh it's it's

1315
00:56:04,309 --> 00:56:02,240
it's great stuff and it's made up of

1316
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:04,319
historical information

1317
00:56:08,549 --> 00:56:06,960
moral uh you know moral lessons

1318
00:56:11,670 --> 00:56:08,559
allegorical symbolism

1319
00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:11,680
code all this great stuff and you can

1320
00:56:16,710 --> 00:56:13,680
research the degrees you can

1321
00:56:18,309 --> 00:56:16,720
the learning is endless and that's the

1322
00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:18,319
part that i really enjoy

1323
00:56:22,069 --> 00:56:20,240
so that that that's how you become a

1324
00:56:23,750 --> 00:56:22,079
templar but everybody has to go through

1325
00:56:25,510 --> 00:56:23,760
the blue lodge first

1326
00:56:27,030 --> 00:56:25,520
those first three degrees and if you

1327
00:56:28,710 --> 00:56:27,040
want to go further

1328
00:56:30,309 --> 00:56:28,720
you know you can go as far as you want

1329
00:56:33,430 --> 00:56:30,319
now can can i can i

1330
00:56:36,230 --> 00:56:33,440
just make a donation and then shortcut

1331
00:56:37,109 --> 00:56:36,240
into knight's templar how big a check

1332
00:56:40,470 --> 00:56:37,119
you're going to write

1333
00:56:42,710 --> 00:56:40,480
oh i can't i'm just kidding no

1334
00:56:44,230 --> 00:56:42,720
no there's no shortcutting you got it

1335
00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:44,240
you got to do the work man you got to

1336
00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:45,520
put the work in

1337
00:56:49,510 --> 00:56:48,000
and and believe me you you know i mean i

1338
00:56:52,549 --> 00:56:49,520
know you're kidding but

1339
00:56:54,390 --> 00:56:52,559
uh i really want to take a shortcut you

1340
00:56:56,390 --> 00:56:54,400
know you don't want to go through

1341
00:56:58,230 --> 00:56:56,400
and become a knights templar and not go

1342
00:57:00,710 --> 00:56:58,240
through all the degrees and

1343
00:57:03,190 --> 00:57:00,720
and and and you know by the time you get

1344
00:57:04,789 --> 00:57:03,200
there you've got this base of knowledge

1345
00:57:07,349 --> 00:57:04,799
so that when you do go through the

1346
00:57:10,230 --> 00:57:07,359
degree and then you are knighted

1347
00:57:11,430 --> 00:57:10,240
uh which is a really special thing with

1348
00:57:13,270 --> 00:57:11,440
like a sword

1349
00:57:15,190 --> 00:57:13,280
and the whole thing do you get oh yeah

1350
00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:15,200
oh are you kidding me

1351
00:57:21,430 --> 00:57:18,480
absolutely you will be you will and

1352
00:57:23,349 --> 00:57:21,440
you will get a sword and but but

1353
00:57:25,270 --> 00:57:23,359
seriously some of the things that happen

1354
00:57:27,910 --> 00:57:25,280
are so profound

1355
00:57:28,870 --> 00:57:27,920
and a lot of it will help you in your

1356
00:57:31,510 --> 00:57:28,880
everyday life

1357
00:57:32,950 --> 00:57:31,520
as far as understanding you know like

1358
00:57:34,870 --> 00:57:32,960
somebody says to you

1359
00:57:36,549 --> 00:57:34,880
hey man are you on the level with me you

1360
00:57:38,549 --> 00:57:36,559
know are you on the level

1361
00:57:40,870 --> 00:57:38,559
now a lot of people just say that it's

1362
00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:40,880
become ingrained in our vernacular in

1363
00:57:43,349 --> 00:57:41,280
this

1364
00:57:45,510 --> 00:57:43,359
you know in the world and that's a

1365
00:57:46,549 --> 00:57:45,520
masonic phrase right a lot of people

1366
00:57:48,309 --> 00:57:46,559
don't realize it

1367
00:57:49,829 --> 00:57:48,319
and there's many others that we use

1368
00:57:50,950 --> 00:57:49,839
every day you don't even realize where

1369
00:57:53,349 --> 00:57:50,960
they come from

1370
00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:53,359
and a lot of them are masonic in origin

1371
00:57:57,190 --> 00:57:54,000
but the point

1372
00:57:58,470 --> 00:57:57,200
is is that becoming a knight at the end

1373
00:58:02,390 --> 00:57:58,480
of the journey

1374
00:58:03,829 --> 00:58:02,400
um won't mean anywhere near as much um

1375
00:58:05,670 --> 00:58:03,839
unless you've gone through the whole

1376
00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:05,680
thing yeah i know you're right i know

1377
00:58:09,910 --> 00:58:06,160
you're right

1378
00:58:10,630 --> 00:58:09,920
it's good stuff uh david i just posted a

1379
00:58:13,750 --> 00:58:10,640
picture

1380
00:58:15,030 --> 00:58:13,760
of the masonic lodge on wilshire

1381
00:58:16,710 --> 00:58:15,040
boulevard

1382
00:58:18,870 --> 00:58:16,720
and that that's one of the most

1383
00:58:21,349 --> 00:58:18,880
tremendous buildings in all of los

1384
00:58:23,270 --> 00:58:21,359
angeles have you been to that lodge

1385
00:58:25,349 --> 00:58:23,280
i have i've driven by it but i haven't

1386
00:58:26,470 --> 00:58:25,359
been in it i've driven by it actually

1387
00:58:29,510 --> 00:58:26,480
many times

1388
00:58:30,470 --> 00:58:29,520
but i have not been in it and i i will

1389
00:58:31,990 --> 00:58:30,480
say this though

1390
00:58:34,230 --> 00:58:32,000
jim and janet and i were just in

1391
00:58:36,870 --> 00:58:34,240
philadelphia here a few weeks ago

1392
00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:36,880
and the grand lodge building in uh

1393
00:58:41,349 --> 00:58:38,880
downtown philadelphia

1394
00:58:43,349 --> 00:58:41,359
is nothing short of stunning it looks

1395
00:58:45,829 --> 00:58:43,359
like a medieval castle

1396
00:58:46,789 --> 00:58:45,839
except it's not old and and and

1397
00:58:50,390 --> 00:58:46,799
weathered

1398
00:58:52,230 --> 00:58:50,400
it's brand new and stunningly beautiful

1399
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and i'll tell you what the inside is

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amazing amazing or the outside is

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amazing

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way to go inside it's it's just

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incredible

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okay i'm looking at it here hold on for

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a second

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uh philadelphia

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uh oh man of uh delphia

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okay grand lodge of

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uh pennsylvania in philadelphia

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yes okay oh man

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oh look that's cool yeah man

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how about that doorway with the

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romanesque arches with the multiple

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levels i'm looking at it right here

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that's crazy yeah and that's granite

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that's not limestone

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you know that's not you know limestone

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or marble has a hardness of three

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granite has a hardness of six and a half

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and that rock is tough and and that's

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just so beautifully

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00:59:53,030 --> 00:59:49,280
um and this is you said this is amazing

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00:59:56,150 --> 00:59:53,040
you said this is new well i what i mean

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00:59:57,349 --> 00:59:56,160
is that it has a gothic architecture

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that you usually see

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in europe in buildings that are you know

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between 700 and 1000 years old or more

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and you know it's weathered and you know

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it's it it has that creepy old

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weathered look but this is only you know

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100

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i don't even know how old it is maybe a

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century and granted you know

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takes forever to weather and it's just

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pristine and beautiful and

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and it's just amazing yeah that tower

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and the turrets on the top

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man that's cool yeah and if you look on

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the corner of the street i don't know if

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01:00:32,150 --> 01:00:29,520
you can see it in that picture there's

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two guys two bronze statues

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one of them is ben franklin the other is

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thomas jefferson yeah i see it right

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01:00:39,670 --> 01:00:38,559
here life-size statues yeah yeah yeah

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01:00:41,510 --> 01:00:39,680
yeah that's pretty cool

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all right let's take a break wow we just

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went full-on knights templar mason

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uh for everybody at the start of the

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show but that's that's what's great

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01:00:50,549 --> 01:00:48,319
about having

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scott walter on with us let's take our

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break this is fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church it is tv

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week tonight scott walter

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tomorrow night giorgio soucalos and dave

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01:01:02,630 --> 01:01:01,119
schroeder join us

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and of course thursday nights another

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fader night with open lines all night

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long you can follow me on twitter

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at j church radio you can follow scott

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he hangs out on twitter probably too

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much

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at real scott walter i'll be right back

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this is fade to black stay with us

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welcome back fade to black our murals

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jimmy church tonight scott walters here

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america on earth it is

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tv week here on fade to black and uh

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last night billy carson tonight

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scott walter tomorrow night georgios and

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dave schrader join us

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uh to wrap up tv week here and uh now

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scott

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let's let's jump straight into it i i

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remember

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uh it was about a year ago um

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01:07:01,510 --> 01:06:59,920
and we're talking about ancient history

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01:07:05,190 --> 01:07:01,520
and and we're talking about the

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01:07:05,750 --> 01:07:05,200
you know our stuff and the subject of

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01:07:08,390 --> 01:07:05,760
e.t

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01:07:09,190 --> 01:07:08,400
came up in the conversation with scott

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01:07:13,109 --> 01:07:09,200
did you just say

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01:07:16,470 --> 01:07:13,119
aliens and and here we are a year later

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01:07:20,309 --> 01:07:16,480
live on the show talking about just that

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01:07:23,349 --> 01:07:20,319
now i want to let the audience know

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01:07:24,549 --> 01:07:23,359
exactly what we're talking about um we

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01:07:27,190 --> 01:07:24,559
had planned on tv

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01:07:28,470 --> 01:07:27,200
week and and things were kicking off

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01:07:30,950 --> 01:07:28,480
scott and i

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01:07:32,710 --> 01:07:30,960
uh were talking and then i get a text

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01:07:36,150 --> 01:07:32,720
from scott he's like dude

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01:07:40,150 --> 01:07:36,160
uh i got some breaking ufo news

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01:07:41,109 --> 01:07:40,160
and okay well um i'm gonna hand this off

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01:07:44,789 --> 01:07:41,119
to you scott

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01:07:45,109 --> 01:07:44,799
but apparently somebody reached out to

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01:07:47,910 --> 01:07:45,119
you

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01:07:48,950 --> 01:07:47,920
watching a past episode of america

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01:07:50,789 --> 01:07:48,960
unearthed

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01:07:52,230 --> 01:07:50,799
and they caught something in the sky in

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01:07:55,670 --> 01:07:52,240
the background and let

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01:07:56,870 --> 01:07:55,680
you know and then you ran with it so to

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01:08:01,109 --> 01:07:56,880
set this up for

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01:08:06,710 --> 01:08:01,119
everybody uh when and where

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01:08:10,789 --> 01:08:10,150
well i i'm to be honest with you i don't

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remember

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exactly i know that it was summertime or

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spring

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and it was out in utah uh near

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kanab utah and it was it was in a uh

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01:08:26,950 --> 01:08:25,520
and i think this was 2014 if i recall

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01:08:31,349 --> 01:08:26,960
right i think it was

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01:08:33,030 --> 01:08:31,359
season three of america on earth and

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you know the whole the episode was about

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01:08:39,030 --> 01:08:34,400
montezuma's treasure

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01:08:40,789 --> 01:08:39,040
and you know it was the the whole show

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01:08:43,590 --> 01:08:40,799
looked at various things and talked

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01:08:46,870 --> 01:08:43,600
about different stories and it led

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01:08:50,390 --> 01:08:46,880
to this location that at one time had

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01:08:52,950 --> 01:08:50,400
uh reportedly a tunnel that was down at

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01:08:55,910 --> 01:08:52,960
the base of this cliff that went in

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01:08:57,829 --> 01:08:55,920
under this mountain and the treasure was

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01:09:01,030 --> 01:08:57,839
supposedly hidden somewhere in there

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01:09:03,110 --> 01:09:01,040
so we were able to follow the clues that

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led us to this location

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01:09:09,829 --> 01:09:06,000
well at some point within the last 10 to

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01:09:13,189 --> 01:09:09,839
20 years i think it was back then

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01:09:16,229 --> 01:09:13,199
this stream this spring fed stream

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01:09:16,550 --> 01:09:16,239
that was extremely cold had been damped

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01:09:18,550 --> 01:09:16,560
up

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01:09:20,309 --> 01:09:18,560
and the reason we were told was to

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create a habitat

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01:09:25,349 --> 01:09:23,279
for a rare endangered snail and i

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01:09:26,950 --> 01:09:25,359
remember very clearly they said

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01:09:28,630 --> 01:09:26,960
you know if anybody steps on one of

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01:09:29,110 --> 01:09:28,640
these snails it's a fifty thousand

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01:09:31,510 --> 01:09:29,120
dollar

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01:09:32,709 --> 01:09:31,520
fine and i'm not kidding so of course

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01:09:34,709 --> 01:09:32,719
we're like well how do you know if you

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01:09:37,030 --> 01:09:34,719
even stepped on one you know it

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01:09:38,470 --> 01:09:37,040
it was kind of crazy but but that's why

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01:09:40,870 --> 01:09:38,480
this pond was created

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01:09:42,630 --> 01:09:40,880
so now this tunnel system that

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01:09:45,910 --> 01:09:42,640
supposedly this treasure was in

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01:09:48,470 --> 01:09:45,920
is now under water about 30 to 35 feet

1670
01:09:49,030 --> 01:09:48,480
so of course you know i gotta go check

1671
01:09:51,590 --> 01:09:49,040
it out

1672
01:09:52,470 --> 01:09:51,600
so before we did that we had a scene

1673
01:09:54,870 --> 01:09:52,480
where

1674
01:09:55,750 --> 01:09:54,880
a guy came in i forget his name now but

1675
01:09:57,830 --> 01:09:55,760
um he had an

1676
01:09:58,790 --> 01:09:57,840
underwater drone kind of the latest and

1677
01:10:02,390 --> 01:09:58,800
greatest

1678
01:10:05,590 --> 01:10:02,400
so we were sitting at a picnic table

1679
01:10:08,709 --> 01:10:05,600
um next to this little pond and

1680
01:10:10,630 --> 01:10:08,719
i remember that the the camera guy uh

1681
01:10:12,229 --> 01:10:10,640
colin trynan was sitting in a little

1682
01:10:14,229 --> 01:10:12,239
paddle boat you know a little

1683
01:10:16,070 --> 01:10:14,239
little paddle boat where you pedal it

1684
01:10:18,630 --> 01:10:16,080
you know for two and

1685
01:10:19,430 --> 01:10:18,640
then the field producer was was in there

1686
01:10:23,110 --> 01:10:19,440
with them

1687
01:10:25,350 --> 01:10:23,120
and this shot was a wide shot of

1688
01:10:27,510 --> 01:10:25,360
uh myself and the guest and we picked up

1689
01:10:29,350 --> 01:10:27,520
this drone we walked out on the dock and

1690
01:10:31,669 --> 01:10:29,360
so it's probably

1691
01:10:32,870 --> 01:10:31,679
the final cut was about five seconds of

1692
01:10:36,630 --> 01:10:32,880
video

1693
01:10:40,390 --> 01:10:36,640
and well let me jump in

1694
01:10:45,110 --> 01:10:40,400
um i have a screenshot

1695
01:10:48,070 --> 01:10:45,120
of uh of this uh particular scene

1696
01:10:48,550 --> 01:10:48,080
and scott's right it's about uh what's

1697
01:10:51,590 --> 01:10:48,560
it what

1698
01:10:53,750 --> 01:10:51,600
aired on television is about

1699
01:10:54,870 --> 01:10:53,760
five seconds long that you see this

1700
01:10:56,550 --> 01:10:54,880
object in the sky

1701
01:10:58,709 --> 01:10:56,560
if you want to go check it out follow me

1702
01:11:02,550 --> 01:10:58,719
on twitter at jtchurchradio

1703
01:11:05,830 --> 01:11:02,560
and uh i've got that up i'll repost it

1704
01:11:08,950 --> 01:11:05,840
now uh so everybody can see it

1705
01:11:12,070 --> 01:11:08,960
i also have the actual

1706
01:11:15,350 --> 01:11:12,080
uh video itself up to as well

1707
01:11:18,070 --> 01:11:15,360
i've got that in front of me um and in

1708
01:11:20,229 --> 01:11:18,080
in the video uh that scott sent to me

1709
01:11:22,950 --> 01:11:20,239
there's a couple of enlargements

1710
01:11:23,830 --> 01:11:22,960
um but what the video so what scott

1711
01:11:26,870 --> 01:11:23,840
didn't tell you

1712
01:11:30,709 --> 01:11:26,880
is that the video shows scott

1713
01:11:33,910 --> 01:11:30,719
um next to an suv the the

1714
01:11:37,189 --> 01:11:33,920
water area it's like a little pond um

1715
01:11:38,470 --> 01:11:37,199
is in front behind it is this rock wall

1716
01:11:40,950 --> 01:11:38,480
it's a cliff

1717
01:11:41,830 --> 01:11:40,960
i don't know it's probably 50 60 feet

1718
01:11:43,270 --> 01:11:41,840
tall

1719
01:11:44,870 --> 01:11:43,280
uh yeah and it's basically all right

1720
01:11:47,350 --> 01:11:44,880
it's a very scenic

1721
01:11:50,070 --> 01:11:47,360
uh shot that's there it's it's shot

1722
01:11:53,510 --> 01:11:50,080
because it's a beautiful shot

1723
01:11:56,390 --> 01:11:53,520
but then and in the background

1724
01:11:58,550 --> 01:11:56,400
up above scott he didn't you know what's

1725
01:12:01,750 --> 01:11:58,560
funny about this scott

1726
01:12:02,229 --> 01:12:01,760
you never looked up nobody did everybody

1727
01:12:05,430 --> 01:12:02,239
was

1728
01:12:08,070 --> 01:12:05,440
focused on the scene and this went

1729
01:12:08,470 --> 01:12:08,080
unnoticed and that it happens all the

1730
01:12:11,350 --> 01:12:08,480
time

1731
01:12:11,830 --> 01:12:11,360
right okay oh yeah i mean well you're

1732
01:12:14,390 --> 01:12:11,840
you you

1733
01:12:16,630 --> 01:12:14,400
look when when for me i know we're

1734
01:12:17,510 --> 01:12:16,640
shooting a scene i'm dialed in right i'm

1735
01:12:19,430 --> 01:12:17,520
trying to

1736
01:12:20,550 --> 01:12:19,440
pay attention to what i'm doing i've got

1737
01:12:22,790 --> 01:12:20,560
a guest that i'm

1738
01:12:24,950 --> 01:12:22,800
i'm dealing with and you know great guy

1739
01:12:25,669 --> 01:12:24,960
and and he's got this technology that we

1740
01:12:28,870 --> 01:12:25,679
want to use

1741
01:12:29,830 --> 01:12:28,880
to go down find this cave before we dive

1742
01:12:31,750 --> 01:12:29,840
into it so

1743
01:12:33,590 --> 01:12:31,760
yeah we're dialed in trying to get it

1744
01:12:36,790 --> 01:12:33,600
done you know

1745
01:12:39,990 --> 01:12:36,800
now uh wha how did

1746
01:12:43,030 --> 01:12:40,000
how did how did the uh viewer

1747
01:12:45,110 --> 01:12:43,040
uh reach out to you well

1748
01:12:46,390 --> 01:12:45,120
it was on twitter and it was just out of

1749
01:12:47,830 --> 01:12:46,400
the blue this is probably

1750
01:12:50,070 --> 01:12:47,840
i don't know two and a half three weeks

1751
01:12:51,669 --> 01:12:50,080
ago now and i did go back

1752
01:12:53,110 --> 01:12:51,679
and contact the guy because i want to

1753
01:12:55,030 --> 01:12:53,120
give him credit

1754
01:12:56,390 --> 01:12:55,040
for you know for bringing this to my

1755
01:12:59,189 --> 01:12:56,400
attention and

1756
01:13:00,709 --> 01:12:59,199
he he just he just sent me a screen grab

1757
01:13:02,470 --> 01:13:00,719
and he said hey scott

1758
01:13:03,990 --> 01:13:02,480
somebody was watching you or you know

1759
01:13:06,070 --> 01:13:04,000
something like that it was just a cute

1760
01:13:07,270 --> 01:13:06,080
little comment and then i looked at it

1761
01:13:09,110 --> 01:13:07,280
and i didn't even really know what he

1762
01:13:12,149 --> 01:13:09,120
was talking about at first

1763
01:13:14,149 --> 01:13:12,159
and then you know i i actually answered

1764
01:13:15,910 --> 01:13:14,159
him and i said oh glad you enjoyed the

1765
01:13:19,110 --> 01:13:15,920
show he goes no did you see the

1766
01:13:20,709 --> 01:13:19,120
the alien is watching you and he's

1767
01:13:22,790 --> 01:13:20,719
and then he sent me another screen grab

1768
01:13:26,070 --> 01:13:22,800
with where he circled it and i went

1769
01:13:29,189 --> 01:13:26,080
holy [\h__\h] i mean i

1770
01:13:30,870 --> 01:13:29,199
i'm like no way and you know if i

1771
01:13:32,870 --> 01:13:30,880
i think i want to give the guy his name

1772
01:13:36,149 --> 01:13:32,880
is edgar uh

1773
01:13:37,430 --> 01:13:36,159
million and i i went go i got back in

1774
01:13:39,350 --> 01:13:37,440
touch with him

1775
01:13:40,950 --> 01:13:39,360
after you know we got this video that i

1776
01:13:42,950 --> 01:13:40,960
sent to you and i said hey man i want to

1777
01:13:44,870 --> 01:13:42,960
make sure i give you credit for

1778
01:13:46,950 --> 01:13:44,880
for you know pointing this out to me

1779
01:13:50,149 --> 01:13:46,960
because it's seven years later

1780
01:13:53,590 --> 01:13:50,159
and none of us knew about any of this

1781
01:13:54,470 --> 01:13:53,600
and and so you know i the funny thing

1782
01:13:57,910 --> 01:13:54,480
was about

1783
01:14:00,149 --> 01:13:57,920
it was later that week i got a call from

1784
01:14:02,390 --> 01:14:00,159
the production company that

1785
01:14:03,270 --> 01:14:02,400
was actually moving their offices and

1786
01:14:05,270 --> 01:14:03,280
they found

1787
01:14:06,550 --> 01:14:05,280
a couple of books of mine and a map that

1788
01:14:08,310 --> 01:14:06,560
belonged to me

1789
01:14:09,990 --> 01:14:08,320
and they called and said hey scott we're

1790
01:14:11,430 --> 01:14:10,000
moving you want to come get this stuff

1791
01:14:12,390 --> 01:14:11,440
we found some stuff that belongs to you

1792
01:14:15,510 --> 01:14:12,400
i said sure

1793
01:14:17,350 --> 01:14:15,520
so i went by there and i saw andy oz who

1794
01:14:18,470 --> 01:14:17,360
owns he and his wife maria own the

1795
01:14:19,910 --> 01:14:18,480
company

1796
01:14:22,149 --> 01:14:19,920
and i showed him the picture he's like

1797
01:14:23,990 --> 01:14:22,159
oh no way that's so cool

1798
01:14:25,990 --> 01:14:24,000
well at the same time one of the editors

1799
01:14:28,229 --> 01:14:26,000
came up a guy named ryan

1800
01:14:30,149 --> 01:14:28,239
and he said hi scott i showed him the

1801
01:14:32,470 --> 01:14:30,159
picture he goes oh my god he said

1802
01:14:33,350 --> 01:14:32,480
do you want to pull up you know that

1803
01:14:35,110 --> 01:14:33,360
episode

1804
01:14:37,270 --> 01:14:35,120
right now i said i think i know how to

1805
01:14:39,189 --> 01:14:37,280
find that and i said yeah let's do it

1806
01:14:41,750 --> 01:14:39,199
so we did and he's the one that put that

1807
01:14:45,590 --> 01:14:41,760
clip together his name is ryan soule

1808
01:14:48,310 --> 01:14:45,600
and that is not the highest resolution

1809
01:14:49,990 --> 01:14:48,320
that they have the raw video they shot

1810
01:14:52,709 --> 01:14:50,000
was at a higher resolution

1811
01:14:55,510 --> 01:14:52,719
and he's looking for that right now and

1812
01:14:57,669 --> 01:14:55,520
i'm sure the clip that they took

1813
01:14:59,510 --> 01:14:57,679
and you know that five seconds from is

1814
01:15:01,669 --> 01:14:59,520
probably much longer it's probably 10 or

1815
01:15:04,229 --> 01:15:01,679
20 seconds long i suspect

1816
01:15:05,110 --> 01:15:04,239
and we'll probably see more of this

1817
01:15:08,470 --> 01:15:05,120
whatever it is

1818
01:15:08,870 --> 01:15:08,480
in the sky uh beyond what you saw which

1819
01:15:10,950 --> 01:15:08,880
is

1820
01:15:12,310 --> 01:15:10,960
still pretty damn cool don't you think

1821
01:15:15,510 --> 01:15:12,320
yeah it is it is

1822
01:15:19,830 --> 01:15:15,520
and now uh can i post

1823
01:15:22,870 --> 01:15:19,840
a link to the video that ryan posted

1824
01:15:26,550 --> 01:15:22,880
i i'm not sure i i don't know why

1825
01:15:27,030 --> 01:15:26,560
you can't um i mean i can i can double

1826
01:15:29,270 --> 01:15:27,040
check

1827
01:15:30,070 --> 01:15:29,280
um i mean it's always maybe we ask

1828
01:15:32,149 --> 01:15:30,080
forgiveness

1829
01:15:33,830 --> 01:15:32,159
but you know he just you know he just

1830
01:15:35,590 --> 01:15:33,840
pulled it up and gave it to me it's not

1831
01:15:37,030 --> 01:15:35,600
the original footage it's

1832
01:15:39,669 --> 01:15:37,040
you know it's out there in the public

1833
01:15:40,709 --> 01:15:39,679
domain right i mean the episode you can

1834
01:15:41,990 --> 01:15:40,719
see on youtube

1835
01:15:44,149 --> 01:15:42,000
so i don't know why it would be a

1836
01:15:46,070 --> 01:15:44,159
problem the only thing that's

1837
01:15:47,189 --> 01:15:46,080
in what i sent you that wouldn't be on

1838
01:15:50,070 --> 01:15:47,199
television

1839
01:15:50,790 --> 01:15:50,080
now is you know he zoomed in multiple

1840
01:15:53,830 --> 01:15:50,800
times

1841
01:15:55,430 --> 01:15:53,840
so you can see the thing and i you know

1842
01:15:57,510 --> 01:15:55,440
i just want to give ryan's soul a

1843
01:16:01,390 --> 01:15:57,520
committee films you know credit for that

1844
01:16:03,910 --> 01:16:01,400
yeah well um i'll uh uh

1845
01:16:05,590 --> 01:16:03,920
s-o-u-l-e i mean i can post i know

1846
01:16:09,350 --> 01:16:05,600
everybody wants to see that i

1847
01:16:11,030 --> 01:16:09,360
spell it good job uh if it's okay i'll

1848
01:16:11,910 --> 01:16:11,040
do it right now i'll pop it up here in

1849
01:16:14,070 --> 01:16:11,920
twitter

1850
01:16:15,590 --> 01:16:14,080
um now what do you remember from that

1851
01:16:18,070 --> 01:16:15,600
day wind

1852
01:16:19,669 --> 01:16:18,080
uh clouds sun what do you remember

1853
01:16:23,350 --> 01:16:19,679
anything specific

1854
01:16:27,110 --> 01:16:23,360
well if if you don't mind i i

1855
01:16:29,430 --> 01:16:27,120
you know the my my friend uh you know

1856
01:16:31,030 --> 01:16:29,440
at the dod that we have talked about he

1857
01:16:32,470 --> 01:16:31,040
and i have had a lot of conversations

1858
01:16:34,709 --> 01:16:32,480
about this and one of the questions that

1859
01:16:37,430 --> 01:16:34,719
he asked me is

1860
01:16:39,590 --> 01:16:37,440
you know what happened that day what did

1861
01:16:40,709 --> 01:16:39,600
anything unusual happen that day when

1862
01:16:43,350 --> 01:16:40,719
you were shooting

1863
01:16:43,830 --> 01:16:43,360
and the answer to that is yes something

1864
01:16:46,630 --> 01:16:43,840
really

1865
01:16:48,950 --> 01:16:46,640
unusual happened right after that thing

1866
01:16:51,189 --> 01:16:48,960
was there and

1867
01:16:52,950 --> 01:16:51,199
you know and and and i remember that day

1868
01:16:54,070 --> 01:16:52,960
once i watched the video and i look at

1869
01:16:55,590 --> 01:16:54,080
the picture

1870
01:16:57,510 --> 01:16:55,600
i remember that day like it was

1871
01:16:58,709 --> 01:16:57,520
yesterday i mean i i remember everything

1872
01:17:01,590 --> 01:16:58,719
and it was

1873
01:17:02,950 --> 01:17:01,600
a perfect day i mean absolutely perfect

1874
01:17:06,229 --> 01:17:02,960
not a cloud in the sky

1875
01:17:08,070 --> 01:17:06,239
no wind nothing i mean it was a it was a

1876
01:17:10,470 --> 01:17:08,080
perfect day and this was

1877
01:17:12,149 --> 01:17:10,480
right before lunch time i remember that

1878
01:17:14,950 --> 01:17:12,159
well after lunch

1879
01:17:16,310 --> 01:17:14,960
it was time to put the scuba tank you

1880
01:17:18,390 --> 01:17:16,320
know we we went in

1881
01:17:20,390 --> 01:17:18,400
and put the underwater drone in the

1882
01:17:23,430 --> 01:17:20,400
water and it found the cave

1883
01:17:25,430 --> 01:17:23,440
about 35 30 to 35 feet down

1884
01:17:26,950 --> 01:17:25,440
and so the next thing to do is to go

1885
01:17:29,189 --> 01:17:26,960
dive and

1886
01:17:31,669 --> 01:17:29,199
after lunch you know we got suited up

1887
01:17:34,550 --> 01:17:31,679
and we had a safety diver that was

1888
01:17:36,149 --> 01:17:34,560
uh that was there his name is ryan and

1889
01:17:37,750 --> 01:17:36,159
then there were two brothers that were

1890
01:17:40,229 --> 01:17:37,760
hired that were local divers

1891
01:17:42,149 --> 01:17:40,239
to do some underwater camera work so i

1892
01:17:43,510 --> 01:17:42,159
had three guys in the water with me plus

1893
01:17:45,590 --> 01:17:43,520
this drone

1894
01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:45,600
and for two hours we're shooting what we

1895
01:17:49,189 --> 01:17:47,280
call hero shots

1896
01:17:51,189 --> 01:17:49,199
me swimming in the water and you know

1897
01:17:51,910 --> 01:17:51,199
doing all the stuff and looking around

1898
01:17:58,470 --> 01:17:51,920
and

1899
01:17:59,430 --> 01:17:58,480
hours it's getting close to three

1900
01:18:02,709 --> 01:17:59,440
o'clock it was

1901
01:18:03,270 --> 01:18:02,719
time to do the dive right and so i got

1902
01:18:05,910 --> 01:18:03,280
up

1903
01:18:06,470 --> 01:18:05,920
and i went to this little paddle boat

1904
01:18:08,390 --> 01:18:06,480
and i

1905
01:18:11,189 --> 01:18:08,400
leaned up on it i grabbed my arms around

1906
01:18:13,430 --> 01:18:11,199
it and ryan the safety diver came up

1907
01:18:14,630 --> 01:18:13,440
and i looked at him and his he was

1908
01:18:17,830 --> 01:18:14,640
shivering

1909
01:18:19,750 --> 01:18:17,840
this this this pond was freezing cold i

1910
01:18:20,149 --> 01:18:19,760
mean it was like lake superior it was in

1911
01:18:22,870 --> 01:18:20,159
the high

1912
01:18:25,830 --> 01:18:22,880
30s and i was in a dry suit so i was

1913
01:18:26,630 --> 01:18:25,840
fine but ryan was wet he had wetsuit on

1914
01:18:29,430 --> 01:18:26,640
and he's a real

1915
01:18:31,030 --> 01:18:29,440
thin guy and he had gotten hypothermia

1916
01:18:32,470 --> 01:18:31,040
and i looked at him i said dude i said

1917
01:18:34,070 --> 01:18:32,480
you're getting hypothermia i said you

1918
01:18:37,030 --> 01:18:34,080
got to get out right now

1919
01:18:38,630 --> 01:18:37,040
and he did he he got out he was done he

1920
01:18:41,669 --> 01:18:38,640
was done for the day

1921
01:18:43,430 --> 01:18:41,679
well as it turned out the other two guys

1922
01:18:44,950 --> 01:18:43,440
one of the one of the guys got out of

1923
01:18:45,910 --> 01:18:44,960
the water took all of his gear off and

1924
01:18:49,110 --> 01:18:45,920
put it away

1925
01:18:50,950 --> 01:18:49,120
so he's out and then ryan gets out he

1926
01:18:53,430 --> 01:18:50,960
he couldn't come back we didn't have

1927
01:18:56,310 --> 01:18:53,440
time for him to you know get dressed

1928
01:18:57,830 --> 01:18:56,320
so it's just me and the other brother so

1929
01:19:00,790 --> 01:18:57,840
he took the camera

1930
01:19:02,070 --> 01:19:00,800
and down we went so this was unusual and

1931
01:19:05,669 --> 01:19:02,080
i have to tell you

1932
01:19:08,709 --> 01:19:05,679
going into a cave is is the most

1933
01:19:10,310 --> 01:19:08,719
dangerous diving there is nothing's more

1934
01:19:13,910 --> 01:19:10,320
dangerous than that

1935
01:19:16,630 --> 01:19:13,920
and quite frankly we were not really

1936
01:19:17,510 --> 01:19:16,640
as prepared as we could have been but

1937
01:19:19,189 --> 01:19:17,520
you know i said

1938
01:19:21,669 --> 01:19:19,199
all right let's do it let's get the shot

1939
01:19:24,950 --> 01:19:21,679
and let's see what happens so

1940
01:19:26,790 --> 01:19:24,960
so we swim down and we get down to this

1941
01:19:27,350 --> 01:19:26,800
cave entrance and it's only about four

1942
01:19:31,270 --> 01:19:27,360
feet

1943
01:19:33,830 --> 01:19:31,280
high so i couldn't you know swim in

1944
01:19:35,990 --> 01:19:33,840
and have lots of room so i kind of

1945
01:19:37,110 --> 01:19:36,000
kneeled my way in i kind of walked in on

1946
01:19:38,630 --> 01:19:37,120
my knees

1947
01:19:40,229 --> 01:19:38,640
and there was sediment on the bottom and

1948
01:19:42,950 --> 01:19:40,239
that was kicking up and

1949
01:19:45,669 --> 01:19:42,960
the the the shooter was behind me and i

1950
01:19:47,430 --> 01:19:45,679
could see the light so he was casting

1951
01:19:48,870 --> 01:19:47,440
towards you know the same direction i

1952
01:19:51,270 --> 01:19:48,880
was looking but

1953
01:19:52,790 --> 01:19:51,280
i was looking above my head and that the

1954
01:19:54,790 --> 01:19:52,800
top of the tunnel was right there and i

1955
01:19:56,149 --> 01:19:54,800
was watching my air bubbles

1956
01:19:58,149 --> 01:19:56,159
and watching which way they were

1957
01:20:00,630 --> 01:19:58,159
trickling back out the entrance because

1958
01:20:04,390 --> 01:20:00,640
the cave was angling downwards

1959
01:20:06,629 --> 01:20:04,400
so we go in about 30 feet or so

1960
01:20:07,669 --> 01:20:06,639
and i stopped because it started to

1961
01:20:09,430 --> 01:20:07,679
widen out

1962
01:20:11,110 --> 01:20:09,440
and then there wasn't as much sediment

1963
01:20:13,990 --> 01:20:11,120
and it was black

1964
01:20:15,750 --> 01:20:14,000
and it kept going and i looked up at the

1965
01:20:17,669 --> 01:20:15,760
ceiling i kept doing this you know every

1966
01:20:19,830 --> 01:20:17,679
few seconds just to see my bubbles make

1967
01:20:22,870 --> 01:20:19,840
sure i knew how to get out right

1968
01:20:24,149 --> 01:20:22,880
and my bubbles weren't moving they were

1969
01:20:27,590 --> 01:20:24,159
just sitting there

1970
01:20:28,790 --> 01:20:27,600
and you know he's behind me and i know

1971
01:20:31,350 --> 01:20:28,800
that's the way out

1972
01:20:31,990 --> 01:20:31,360
but it's now it's widened out and i

1973
01:20:34,629 --> 01:20:32,000
looked into the

1974
01:20:36,870 --> 01:20:34,639
darkness and jimmy i swear to you it was

1975
01:20:38,709 --> 01:20:36,880
like there was a ghost that just was

1976
01:20:40,310 --> 01:20:38,719
you know taking his finger going come on

1977
01:20:43,110 --> 01:20:40,320
scott keep going come on

1978
01:20:43,750 --> 01:20:43,120
in and i just said to myself nope not

1979
01:20:45,910 --> 01:20:43,760
doing it

1980
01:20:47,110 --> 01:20:45,920
i'm out of here and i turned around i

1981
01:20:50,629 --> 01:20:47,120
gave the cut sign

1982
01:20:53,430 --> 01:20:50,639
and i pointed out and we left you know

1983
01:20:55,430 --> 01:20:53,440
but it was really freaky because there

1984
01:20:57,350 --> 01:20:55,440
was a part of me

1985
01:20:59,669 --> 01:20:57,360
you know i mean to be honest with you

1986
01:21:01,110 --> 01:20:59,679
when we started this episode

1987
01:21:03,189 --> 01:21:01,120
are we going to find montezuma's

1988
01:21:04,790 --> 01:21:03,199
treasure no right

1989
01:21:06,629 --> 01:21:04,800
but i got to tell you for an instant

1990
01:21:08,629 --> 01:21:06,639
when i was in that cave

1991
01:21:11,350 --> 01:21:08,639
and it widened out and i looked and i'm

1992
01:21:14,310 --> 01:21:11,360
like god this thing keeps going

1993
01:21:16,550 --> 01:21:14,320
i was i was getting into it i'm like i

1994
01:21:19,510 --> 01:21:16,560
want to find this treasure right

1995
01:21:21,590 --> 01:21:19,520
and then i stop myself and i go no no

1996
01:21:24,790 --> 01:21:21,600
this is when bad things happen

1997
01:21:26,950 --> 01:21:24,800
the treasure can wait and we left so i

1998
01:21:29,990 --> 01:21:26,960
told holden that story

1999
01:21:33,510 --> 01:21:30,000
and he said well

2000
01:21:37,189 --> 01:21:33,520
you know the et's like gold too

2001
01:21:39,990 --> 01:21:37,199
well and and what uh

2002
01:21:40,830 --> 01:21:40,000
uh what was around that area were you

2003
01:21:44,470 --> 01:21:40,840
guys

2004
01:21:47,910 --> 01:21:44,480
alone there was nothing i mean this is

2005
01:21:49,270 --> 01:21:47,920
uh it was private land um and i did

2006
01:21:50,950 --> 01:21:49,280
interview the landowner and that's

2007
01:21:52,550 --> 01:21:50,960
another crazy story i'm gonna tell you

2008
01:21:55,590 --> 01:21:52,560
in a minute that just

2009
01:21:55,990 --> 01:21:55,600
absolutely more than anything what

2010
01:21:58,629 --> 01:21:56,000
happened

2011
01:22:00,229 --> 01:21:58,639
with the landowner was the craziest

2012
01:22:02,149 --> 01:22:00,239
thing of this whole story but

2013
01:22:03,430 --> 01:22:02,159
but no it was there was a little park

2014
01:22:04,629 --> 01:22:03,440
there um

2015
01:22:07,030 --> 01:22:04,639
you know it's one of those out of the

2016
01:22:09,110 --> 01:22:07,040
way parks along a road canyon road that

2017
01:22:10,870 --> 01:22:09,120
goes down along this creek

2018
01:22:12,390 --> 01:22:10,880
and there's nothing there i mean it's

2019
01:22:15,830 --> 01:22:12,400
just out in the middle of nowhere

2020
01:22:17,270 --> 01:22:15,840
so it wasn't like i mean when i look at

2021
01:22:20,629 --> 01:22:17,280
that thing that's that's

2022
01:22:21,910 --> 01:22:20,639
it's floating in the sky it's floating

2023
01:22:24,950 --> 01:22:21,920
is the right word it

2024
01:22:25,830 --> 01:22:24,960
kind of but it's bobbing just ever so

2025
01:22:27,669 --> 01:22:25,840
slightly

2026
01:22:29,510 --> 01:22:27,679
but when you zoom in you can see it's

2027
01:22:31,270 --> 01:22:29,520
actually rotating

2028
01:22:33,590 --> 01:22:31,280
now a balloon doesn't do that that's the

2029
01:22:35,590 --> 01:22:33,600
only other thing that i could possibly

2030
01:22:36,870 --> 01:22:35,600
imagine that this could be but that's

2031
01:22:39,270 --> 01:22:36,880
not how a balloon

2032
01:22:39,990 --> 01:22:39,280
moves and it doesn't look like a balloon

2033
01:22:41,830 --> 01:22:40,000
and

2034
01:22:43,350 --> 01:22:41,840
as i told you before it was a perfect

2035
01:22:45,030 --> 01:22:43,360
day there was no wind

2036
01:22:46,149 --> 01:22:45,040
now somebody might say well in the upper

2037
01:22:47,350 --> 01:22:46,159
atmosphere there may have been some

2038
01:22:50,950 --> 01:22:47,360
winds well there might have been

2039
01:22:51,669 --> 01:22:50,960
but i i you know yeah this is pretty

2040
01:22:55,189 --> 01:22:51,679
close

2041
01:22:58,229 --> 01:22:55,199
ground

2042
01:23:00,390 --> 01:22:58,239
and now i am going to uh

2043
01:23:01,830 --> 01:23:00,400
let me watch this video really quick you

2044
01:23:02,550 --> 01:23:01,840
may hear some of it play in the

2045
01:23:05,590 --> 01:23:02,560
background

2046
01:23:10,229 --> 01:23:05,600
yeah i don't see

2047
01:23:13,590 --> 01:23:10,239
the trees are blowing just a little bit

2048
01:23:16,790 --> 01:23:13,600
but this object

2049
01:23:19,750 --> 01:23:16,800
is moving moving it's uh

2050
01:23:20,629 --> 01:23:19,760
it's moving they're moving but it's it

2051
01:23:22,950 --> 01:23:20,639
and there's

2052
01:23:24,229 --> 01:23:22,960
it's not windy though it's not windy i

2053
01:23:27,270 --> 01:23:24,239
mean it was calm

2054
01:23:29,110 --> 01:23:27,280
it was calm yeah yeah the trees there's

2055
01:23:31,110 --> 01:23:29,120
a little bit of air movement but i mean

2056
01:23:33,669 --> 01:23:31,120
it was it wasn't what i would call

2057
01:23:35,430 --> 01:23:33,679
any meaningful wind no no now that i

2058
01:23:37,910 --> 01:23:35,440
look at it no the trees are perfectly

2059
01:23:41,510 --> 01:23:37,920
still i take that back that is the

2060
01:23:43,189 --> 01:23:41,520
that's the video camera uh moving around

2061
01:23:46,070 --> 01:23:43,199
the trees themselves aren't

2062
01:23:47,110 --> 01:23:46,080
yeah that's uh that's pretty interesting

2063
01:23:50,310 --> 01:23:47,120
now um i

2064
01:23:52,149 --> 01:23:50,320
i called you and uh after watching this

2065
01:23:55,350 --> 01:23:52,159
i don't know how many times

2066
01:23:58,390 --> 01:23:55,360
i said i i think uh i think this

2067
01:24:00,870 --> 01:23:58,400
is a a a balloon and i

2068
01:24:02,149 --> 01:24:00,880
and i know that that's that was my first

2069
01:24:04,550 --> 01:24:02,159
reaction

2070
01:24:07,510 --> 01:24:04,560
um the more that i've looked at this i

2071
01:24:10,790 --> 01:24:07,520
mean it could be but the reason why

2072
01:24:12,629 --> 01:24:10,800
uh i mean who would if if this is a

2073
01:24:14,310 --> 01:24:12,639
remote area who would just

2074
01:24:15,990 --> 01:24:14,320
you know release a balloon up in the

2075
01:24:18,390 --> 01:24:16,000
middle of nowhere if there's nobody

2076
01:24:19,430 --> 01:24:18,400
there well it's not a it's not

2077
01:24:21,189 --> 01:24:19,440
impossible

2078
01:24:23,110 --> 01:24:21,199
that it could be a balloon but i can't

2079
01:24:24,229 --> 01:24:23,120
imagine what anybody would be doing

2080
01:24:26,550 --> 01:24:24,239
there yeah

2081
01:24:27,510 --> 01:24:26,560
it just doesn't make any sense to me and

2082
01:24:29,270 --> 01:24:27,520
i gotta you know

2083
01:24:30,950 --> 01:24:29,280
and you and i had this conversation and

2084
01:24:33,669 --> 01:24:30,960
i respect your opinion

2085
01:24:33,990 --> 01:24:33,679
and but you're not firm in what you said

2086
01:24:38,149 --> 01:24:34,000
no

2087
01:24:39,510 --> 01:24:38,159
other thing that it could be i mean that

2088
01:24:42,310 --> 01:24:39,520
what else could it be other than a

2089
01:24:45,110 --> 01:24:42,320
balloon so it's a reasonable thing

2090
01:24:45,430 --> 01:24:45,120
to consider for sure now you showed this

2091
01:24:47,910 --> 01:24:45,440
uh

2092
01:24:50,550 --> 01:24:47,920
video to quite a few people what's the

2093
01:24:53,030 --> 01:24:50,560
reaction been what do they think it is

2094
01:24:54,070 --> 01:24:53,040
they're all just like they don't know

2095
01:24:57,270 --> 01:24:54,080
what else it could be

2096
01:24:59,110 --> 01:24:57,280
other than a ufo i mean

2097
01:25:00,709 --> 01:24:59,120
just about i i haven't really had

2098
01:25:02,790 --> 01:25:00,719
anybody that have i haven't shown it to

2099
01:25:04,629 --> 01:25:02,800
a lot of people but everybody that i've

2100
01:25:06,149 --> 01:25:04,639
shown it to are people that i whose

2101
01:25:08,470 --> 01:25:06,159
opinion i respect

2102
01:25:09,990 --> 01:25:08,480
and they all they all said that's that's

2103
01:25:11,110 --> 01:25:10,000
what it sure looks like to them but you

2104
01:25:13,030 --> 01:25:11,120
know they don't know

2105
01:25:14,629 --> 01:25:13,040
and and the truth of the matter is it's

2106
01:25:17,030 --> 01:25:14,639
still we're still looking into it we

2107
01:25:20,149 --> 01:25:17,040
still need to get that raw video

2108
01:25:21,350 --> 01:25:20,159
um you know holden is very interested in

2109
01:25:23,110 --> 01:25:21,360
this and he says

2110
01:25:25,110 --> 01:25:23,120
you know it looks really interesting but

2111
01:25:25,750 --> 01:25:25,120
he hasn't drawn a final conclusion yet

2112
01:25:27,430 --> 01:25:25,760
either

2113
01:25:28,790 --> 01:25:27,440
i mean when you say this is breaking

2114
01:25:31,189 --> 01:25:28,800
this is breaking

2115
01:25:33,590 --> 01:25:31,199
this is an open investigation we have

2116
01:25:38,310 --> 01:25:33,600
not concluded definitively

2117
01:25:41,110 --> 01:25:38,320
um what this is um but i have to say

2118
01:25:43,110 --> 01:25:41,120
it compelling would be an understatement

2119
01:25:43,990 --> 01:25:43,120
you know in my view this thing is just

2120
01:25:47,510 --> 01:25:44,000
crazy

2121
01:25:49,430 --> 01:25:47,520
and the fact that it was it was

2122
01:25:51,750 --> 01:25:49,440
nobody noticed it when we were there i

2123
01:25:53,430 --> 01:25:51,760
guess we were all so focused on on

2124
01:25:55,750 --> 01:25:53,440
doing what we were doing i guess we just

2125
01:25:56,629 --> 01:25:55,760
missed it but you know can i can i tell

2126
01:25:59,590 --> 01:25:56,639
you what happened

2127
01:26:01,189 --> 01:25:59,600
just the other day yeah and we're going

2128
01:26:02,229 --> 01:26:01,199
to discuss it more when we come back

2129
01:26:05,430 --> 01:26:02,239
after the break but

2130
01:26:07,669 --> 01:26:05,440
uh again so i wake up in the morning

2131
01:26:08,950 --> 01:26:07,679
you know scott gets up at like 4 a.m he

2132
01:26:09,910 --> 01:26:08,960
doesn't know that i don't roll out of

2133
01:26:11,590 --> 01:26:09,920
bed till noon

2134
01:26:13,350 --> 01:26:11,600
and i keep telling him that over and

2135
01:26:16,229 --> 01:26:13,360
over again quit

2136
01:26:18,629 --> 01:26:16,239
calling me at 7 00 a.m but i get a text

2137
01:26:22,229 --> 01:26:18,639
i get a text from scott right on time

2138
01:26:25,830 --> 01:26:22,239
8 a.m 7 7 a.m uh

2139
01:26:29,350 --> 01:26:25,840
call me uh i've got some and so i did

2140
01:26:30,870 --> 01:26:29,360
what happened well i just said

2141
01:26:33,270 --> 01:26:30,880
jim i got something you're not gonna

2142
01:26:35,430 --> 01:26:33,280
believe and you know the the funny part

2143
01:26:36,870 --> 01:26:35,440
was like you said you know we

2144
01:26:39,030 --> 01:26:36,880
you and i have done i don't know how

2145
01:26:39,669 --> 01:26:39,040
many interviews we've known each other a

2146
01:26:41,750 --> 01:26:39,679
long time

2147
01:26:42,790 --> 01:26:41,760
and it's always about historical

2148
01:26:44,470 --> 01:26:42,800
mysteries and

2149
01:26:47,350 --> 01:26:44,480
controversies and templars and

2150
01:26:50,790 --> 01:26:47,360
runestones and hook taxes and

2151
01:26:53,189 --> 01:26:50,800
and um just in the last year

2152
01:26:54,070 --> 01:26:53,199
you know you invited me to the conscious

2153
01:26:57,270 --> 01:26:54,080
life expo

2154
01:26:57,910 --> 01:26:57,280
i had a blast i sat in on a panel

2155
01:27:00,229 --> 01:26:57,920
discussion

2156
01:27:02,790 --> 01:27:00,239
i gave a lecture and you know to be

2157
01:27:04,550 --> 01:27:02,800
honest with you jim i felt a little bit

2158
01:27:06,149 --> 01:27:04,560
a little bit like a fish out of water

2159
01:27:08,550 --> 01:27:06,159
when i first got there

2160
01:27:09,910 --> 01:27:08,560
but everybody was so great and i really

2161
01:27:13,270 --> 01:27:09,920
enjoyed myself

2162
01:27:14,070 --> 01:27:13,280
and i i felt like we brought something

2163
01:27:17,669 --> 01:27:14,080
to the table

2164
01:27:20,310 --> 01:27:17,679
that you know needed to be brought

2165
01:27:20,870 --> 01:27:20,320
more you know you have some scientific

2166
01:27:24,149 --> 01:27:20,880
people

2167
01:27:25,910 --> 01:27:24,159
investigations

2168
01:27:27,990 --> 01:27:25,920
but i you know you can always use more

2169
01:27:30,470 --> 01:27:28,000
of that especially in this arena

2170
01:27:31,990 --> 01:27:30,480
and i really started to feel comfortable

2171
01:27:35,030 --> 01:27:32,000
but more than that i met

2172
01:27:36,310 --> 01:27:35,040
a lot of really fascinating people that

2173
01:27:39,750 --> 01:27:36,320
told me

2174
01:27:41,830 --> 01:27:39,760
stories shared information and

2175
01:27:44,229 --> 01:27:41,840
you know i talked to a lot of people and

2176
01:27:47,350 --> 01:27:44,239
one of the things that i really liked

2177
01:27:48,950 --> 01:27:47,360
is there was consistency um with these

2178
01:27:51,270 --> 01:27:48,960
different people that i met that were

2179
01:27:53,350 --> 01:27:51,280
telling me a lot of the same things

2180
01:27:55,110 --> 01:27:53,360
and that's a good thing because if you

2181
01:27:56,950 --> 01:27:55,120
know one guy's off over here another

2182
01:27:58,629 --> 01:27:56,960
person's over there and i get you know

2183
01:28:00,470 --> 01:27:58,639
it's like you can't make heads or tails

2184
01:28:03,830 --> 01:28:00,480
of this but there is

2185
01:28:07,350 --> 01:28:03,840
um a cogent consistent

2186
01:28:10,229 --> 01:28:07,360
theme to this subject matter and that is

2187
01:28:11,350 --> 01:28:10,239
interesting to me and boy in the last

2188
01:28:14,470 --> 01:28:11,360
year

2189
01:28:15,030 --> 01:28:14,480
it's really come full you know in waves

2190
01:28:19,110 --> 01:28:15,040
to me

2191
01:28:21,189 --> 01:28:19,120
and then now this um

2192
01:28:23,270 --> 01:28:21,199
it can't be a coincidence and and the

2193
01:28:25,030 --> 01:28:23,280
story i'm gonna tell after the break

2194
01:28:26,950 --> 01:28:25,040
was definitely not a coincidence but

2195
01:28:28,870 --> 01:28:26,960
i'll let i'll let the audience decide

2196
01:28:30,390 --> 01:28:28,880
yeah and that that's the thing and when

2197
01:28:31,430 --> 01:28:30,400
we come back we're going to talk about

2198
01:28:34,790 --> 01:28:31,440
synchronicities

2199
01:28:38,229 --> 01:28:34,800
because that is one of the

2200
01:28:42,070 --> 01:28:38,239
most important aspects in life when

2201
01:28:45,669 --> 01:28:42,080
things happen don't dismiss

2202
01:28:48,870 --> 01:28:45,679
it you need to follow up there is

2203
01:28:49,750 --> 01:28:48,880
the the universe has a very very strange

2204
01:28:52,310 --> 01:28:49,760
way

2205
01:28:52,950 --> 01:28:52,320
of being a couple of steps ahead and

2206
01:28:55,669 --> 01:28:52,960
that's it

2207
01:28:56,870 --> 01:28:55,679
that there is no other way to look at it

2208
01:28:59,590 --> 01:28:56,880
we'll talk about this

2209
01:29:00,629 --> 01:28:59,600
uh synchronicity this strangeness this

2210
01:29:03,189 --> 01:29:00,639
coincidence

2211
01:29:04,390 --> 01:29:03,199
when we come back after this short break

2212
01:29:07,430 --> 01:29:04,400
our guest tonight

2213
01:29:10,310 --> 01:29:07,440
scott walter this is tv week here on

2214
01:29:11,750 --> 01:29:10,320
fade to black i'm your host jimmy church

2215
01:29:26,940 --> 01:29:11,760
stay with us

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[Music]

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then

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church tonight scott walters

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with us we're talking

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ufos get back to scott in just a second

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i want to talk to you about

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was leaked after a hacker found a

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and location data

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this data was then uploaded to a public

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scott okay um this

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is uh uh you know breaking ufo hashtag

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breaking ufo

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when you and i started talking about

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this uh this weekend

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we knew that we were in the middle of

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launching

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um a hashtag breaking ufo and i knew

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that this was

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a way to introduce what is going on out

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there this is what you want to do

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hashtag breaking ufo and then

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scott check this out in hashtag breaking

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ufo because of you

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uh tonight uh drewber

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just shot this triangle ufo

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tonight in boise idaho and

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01:35:13,990 --> 01:35:12,159
the video just posted up in breaking ufo

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i want everybody to go to hashtag

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breaking ufo

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uh because you'll be able to see

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drewber's video

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01:35:23,189 --> 01:35:21,520
right there and if you uh scroll down

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01:35:26,629 --> 01:35:23,199
right there breaking ufo

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01:35:29,270 --> 01:35:26,639
i have a scott's video from america

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unearthed now what is interesting here

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01:35:33,189 --> 01:35:29,840
scott

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01:35:36,390 --> 01:35:33,199
is you contacted me over the weekend

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01:35:39,109 --> 01:35:36,400
uh as all of this was starting to unfold

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01:35:39,990 --> 01:35:39,119
and we were talking about the location

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01:35:44,070 --> 01:35:40,000
in utah

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01:35:47,990 --> 01:35:44,080
and and so forth and the next day

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01:35:49,910 --> 01:35:48,000
you got contact what happened okay

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01:35:51,669 --> 01:35:49,920
hey let me back up and just say one

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01:35:52,550 --> 01:35:51,679
other thing jim but i forgot to mention

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01:35:55,270 --> 01:35:52,560
to you that

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01:35:55,669 --> 01:35:55,280
janet just reminded me and that was

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01:35:59,030 --> 01:35:55,679
there

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01:36:01,669 --> 01:35:59,040
has been strange activity

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01:36:02,550 --> 01:36:01,679
that you know led you know their stories

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01:36:05,510 --> 01:36:02,560
from this site

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01:36:07,109 --> 01:36:05,520
prior to the cave being um you know

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drowned by the pond

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of people going in there and seeing

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ghosts having spirits that that

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01:36:19,669 --> 01:36:17,360
drove them away so there has been

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01:36:21,669 --> 01:36:19,679
paranormal activity or paranormal

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01:36:23,030 --> 01:36:21,679
type of activity that has been reported

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01:36:24,950 --> 01:36:23,040
there in the past

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01:36:27,109 --> 01:36:24,960
that was you know associated with this

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01:36:28,870 --> 01:36:27,119
montezuma's treasure legend so

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01:36:31,109 --> 01:36:28,880
i think it's important that we have that

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in there uh because i guess

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01:36:34,629 --> 01:36:32,800
you know this is apparently a

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01:36:37,030 --> 01:36:34,639
continuation of that but

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you know as you said when i first

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contacted you

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01:36:41,669 --> 01:36:40,080
i had gotten you know this video that

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01:36:44,390 --> 01:36:41,679
you just posted

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01:36:45,910 --> 01:36:44,400
and i was talking with my friend at you

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01:36:49,750 --> 01:36:45,920
know the uh

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um division of the department of

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01:36:56,070 --> 01:36:53,040
defense that looks into this

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01:36:57,669 --> 01:36:56,080
type of activity and you know he was

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01:36:59,430 --> 01:36:57,679
asking me questions i told him the story

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01:37:01,350 --> 01:36:59,440
i just told you about the cave

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01:37:02,470 --> 01:37:01,360
and then he wanted more specific

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01:37:05,270 --> 01:37:02,480
information

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01:37:05,990 --> 01:37:05,280
and i gave the general location of kanab

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01:37:09,669 --> 01:37:06,000
and he said well

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01:37:12,070 --> 01:37:09,679
that's a known area of high activity and

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01:37:13,510 --> 01:37:12,080
that makes sense so that was something i

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01:37:15,350 --> 01:37:13,520
thought was really cool

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01:37:17,270 --> 01:37:15,360
but he said i'd like to get more

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01:37:18,149 --> 01:37:17,280
specific information about exactly where

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01:37:20,470 --> 01:37:18,159
you were

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01:37:22,229 --> 01:37:20,480
what do you remember you know who did

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01:37:23,990 --> 01:37:22,239
you contact and i said well i don't

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01:37:26,229 --> 01:37:24,000
really remember but i think

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01:37:27,189 --> 01:37:26,239
it was private land and then as i

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01:37:29,350 --> 01:37:27,199
thought about it more

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01:37:30,709 --> 01:37:29,360
it was private land and at one point i

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01:37:33,030 --> 01:37:30,719
actually interviewed

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the landowner and he's in the episode

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01:37:36,390 --> 01:37:34,480
now i haven't watched the

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01:37:37,990 --> 01:37:36,400
the whole episode so i do and i don't

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01:37:40,149 --> 01:37:38,000
remember his name

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01:37:41,990 --> 01:37:40,159
and so holden is asking me these

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01:37:42,790 --> 01:37:42,000
questions i'm like i can't remember man

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01:37:44,709 --> 01:37:42,800
you know but

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01:37:46,390 --> 01:37:44,719
i can get a hold of the production

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01:37:47,109 --> 01:37:46,400
company i'm sure they can track down his

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01:37:49,590 --> 01:37:47,119
name

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01:37:50,550 --> 01:37:49,600
and that last friday night this was last

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friday night

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01:37:56,629 --> 01:37:53,040
we talked with him for about three hours

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01:37:58,390 --> 01:37:56,639
jan and i didn't get to bed until 2 a.m

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01:38:00,790 --> 01:37:58,400
and this was the last thing he asked me

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01:38:02,790 --> 01:38:00,800
to do is see if you can contact

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01:38:04,550 --> 01:38:02,800
this landowner i would like to speak

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01:38:06,470 --> 01:38:04,560
with him and i said

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01:38:09,350 --> 01:38:06,480
i'll get on it it'll be next week you

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01:38:12,550 --> 01:38:09,360
know i'll get back to you

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01:38:15,590 --> 01:38:12,560
six hours later i wake up

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01:38:18,709 --> 01:38:15,600
i get on my computer

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01:38:21,910 --> 01:38:18,719
and there's an email from that landowner

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01:38:24,550 --> 01:38:21,920
now see this pops up and there he is

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01:38:26,310 --> 01:38:24,560
and you remember it immediately and when

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01:38:29,669 --> 01:38:26,320
i saw the name i'm like that's him

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01:38:31,510 --> 01:38:29,679
that's him i was you know i was 99 sure

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01:38:33,109 --> 01:38:31,520
and then i just said janet you know and

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01:38:36,950 --> 01:38:33,119
i yelled at her she came running down

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01:38:42,790 --> 01:38:40,229
that is the universe winking at you

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01:38:44,709 --> 01:38:42,800
oh of course and then i tell you waiting

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01:38:46,709 --> 01:38:44,719
for you to just get your mind blown you

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01:38:48,550 --> 01:38:46,719
go oh that happens all the time

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01:38:50,070 --> 01:38:48,560
oh hold on hold on you're right i forgot

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01:38:53,590 --> 01:38:50,080
about that so

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01:38:56,229 --> 01:38:53,600
so scott scott sends me this text

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01:38:57,990 --> 01:38:56,239
you got to call me man and uh and i do

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01:39:00,470 --> 01:38:58,000
and he tells me what and and scott's

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01:39:01,030 --> 01:39:00,480
excited i can't believe it man here it

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01:39:04,070 --> 01:39:01,040
is and

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01:39:07,270 --> 01:39:04,080
about him yesterday jimmy and

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01:39:10,070 --> 01:39:07,280
my bullman hear it i said scott happens

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01:39:11,990 --> 01:39:10,080
every day man come on

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01:39:14,390 --> 01:39:12,000
you know what your new nickname is

2443
01:39:14,950 --> 01:39:14,400
buzzkill i know i know and i didn't want

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01:39:18,070 --> 01:39:14,960
to do that

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01:39:19,109 --> 01:39:18,080
but see this is the thing scott i'm so

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01:39:21,189 --> 01:39:19,119
happy that

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01:39:22,149 --> 01:39:21,199
that you had that experience and i know

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01:39:24,149 --> 01:39:22,159
that jan

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01:39:25,590 --> 01:39:24,159
and i were kind of ribbing you a little

2450
01:39:29,270 --> 01:39:25,600
bit about this but

2451
01:39:32,229 --> 01:39:29,280
it's real but but scott

2452
01:39:32,870 --> 01:39:32,239
people need to understand this stuff

2453
01:39:36,950 --> 01:39:32,880
happens

2454
01:39:39,189 --> 01:39:36,960
and when it does react to it

2455
01:39:40,390 --> 01:39:39,199
don't let it go other people will just

2456
01:39:43,590 --> 01:39:40,400
you know it ah

2457
01:39:46,149 --> 01:39:43,600
it's okay it's not that big no no the

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01:39:48,629 --> 01:39:46,159
the the universe is one step ahead and

2459
01:39:51,270 --> 01:39:48,639
the other interesting part about this

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01:39:53,189 --> 01:39:51,280
is you would have not remembered his

2461
01:39:53,990 --> 01:39:53,199
name you would have had to have gone and

2462
01:39:55,430 --> 01:39:54,000
chased it down

2463
01:39:57,189 --> 01:39:55,440
you would have had to do the work and

2464
01:39:58,149 --> 01:39:57,199
it's the universe going hey you don't

2465
01:40:01,750 --> 01:39:58,159
have to do all that

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01:40:05,030 --> 01:40:01,760
man here is here's his name right here

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01:40:05,910 --> 01:40:05,040
right i you know what i mean all kidding

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01:40:08,870 --> 01:40:05,920
aside

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01:40:10,470 --> 01:40:08,880
you know this is this has been a really

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01:40:12,709 --> 01:40:10,480
amazing journey for me

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01:40:15,270 --> 01:40:12,719
for about the last five years and it

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01:40:17,830 --> 01:40:15,280
started when i became a freemason

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01:40:18,550 --> 01:40:17,840
and you know i've always been a hard

2474
01:40:20,629 --> 01:40:18,560
scientist

2475
01:40:22,950 --> 01:40:20,639
i've run this lab for 31 years i've been

2476
01:40:25,350 --> 01:40:22,960
in this business 36 years of doing

2477
01:40:27,430 --> 01:40:25,360
material forensics facts first

2478
01:40:29,830 --> 01:40:27,440
interpretations conclusions

2479
01:40:32,550 --> 01:40:29,840
and that's the way it's done but this

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01:40:35,430 --> 01:40:32,560
this other side of the brain

2481
01:40:38,149 --> 01:40:35,440
that i apparently haven't been using

2482
01:40:41,510 --> 01:40:38,159
nearly as much as i should

2483
01:40:43,830 --> 01:40:41,520
and and i mean we've all had you know

2484
01:40:45,430 --> 01:40:43,840
strange coincidences you think about

2485
01:40:46,229 --> 01:40:45,440
somebody and boom they text you they

2486
01:40:49,990 --> 01:40:46,239
call you

2487
01:40:53,510 --> 01:40:50,000
but this goes way beyond that

2488
01:40:54,310 --> 01:40:53,520
because this is 2014 was the last time i

2489
01:40:56,470 --> 01:40:54,320
had i

2490
01:40:58,470 --> 01:40:56,480
i've never emailed this guy i've never

2491
01:40:59,189 --> 01:40:58,480
called him i only talked to him that day

2492
01:41:01,270 --> 01:40:59,199
we were

2493
01:41:02,790 --> 01:41:01,280
there filming i have no reason to

2494
01:41:05,510 --> 01:41:02,800
remember his name

2495
01:41:06,310 --> 01:41:05,520
and then after seven years over twenty

2496
01:41:09,270 --> 01:41:06,320
five hundred

2497
01:41:10,709 --> 01:41:09,280
days this guy calls me and it's the same

2498
01:41:13,590 --> 01:41:10,719
day he contacted me

2499
01:41:14,709 --> 01:41:13,600
because we went to bed at two a.m right

2500
01:41:16,950 --> 01:41:14,719
and so

2501
01:41:19,590 --> 01:41:16,960
i i mean honestly jimmy i got i'm

2502
01:41:21,910 --> 01:41:19,600
bearing my soul here man

2503
01:41:24,550 --> 01:41:21,920
i was genuinely freaked out because this

2504
01:41:26,550 --> 01:41:24,560
is not this is not science this is

2505
01:41:28,550 --> 01:41:26,560
or maybe it is science it's the level of

2506
01:41:32,070 --> 01:41:28,560
science that that i don't

2507
01:41:35,910 --> 01:41:32,080
fully get right right uh

2508
01:41:39,109 --> 01:41:35,920
entanglement and it's just it's just so

2509
01:41:43,350 --> 01:41:39,119
fun it's so interesting um and

2510
01:41:46,390 --> 01:41:43,360
now i'm i'm on the squad man i'm in okay

2511
01:41:49,270 --> 01:41:46,400
i'm not gonna question you got me

2512
01:41:50,229 --> 01:41:49,280
and you know let's let's enjoy it let's

2513
01:41:52,629 --> 01:41:50,239
let's have fun

2514
01:41:55,510 --> 01:41:52,639
now what's up what's the next step here

2515
01:41:57,430 --> 01:41:55,520
uh are you going to have access to the

2516
01:42:00,470 --> 01:41:57,440
raw video footage

2517
01:42:02,070 --> 01:42:00,480
yes yes we will and i know ryan's going

2518
01:42:04,070 --> 01:42:02,080
to do that he's in the middle of that

2519
01:42:05,830 --> 01:42:04,080
move right now so he said hey just bear

2520
01:42:08,390 --> 01:42:05,840
with me for a few days

2521
01:42:09,109 --> 01:42:08,400
uh but he will get that for us and then

2522
01:42:12,709 --> 01:42:09,119
you know

2523
01:42:14,950 --> 01:42:12,719
those years that we did

2524
01:42:17,109 --> 01:42:14,960
america on earth the production company

2525
01:42:18,470 --> 01:42:17,119
is literally and i am not kidding jim i

2526
01:42:21,030 --> 01:42:18,480
can get out of my

2527
01:42:22,390 --> 01:42:21,040
get in my car my garage i can be pulling

2528
01:42:24,790 --> 01:42:22,400
into their offices

2529
01:42:26,310 --> 01:42:24,800
in five minutes they are in eden prairie

2530
01:42:27,270 --> 01:42:26,320
right across the street from me it's

2531
01:42:29,350 --> 01:42:27,280
incredible

2532
01:42:31,189 --> 01:42:29,360
so when he calls i will be in there

2533
01:42:33,109 --> 01:42:31,199
literally before he hangs up the phone

2534
01:42:34,870 --> 01:42:33,119
and looking at that footage so

2535
01:42:37,030 --> 01:42:34,880
i will let you know when that happens

2536
01:42:41,030 --> 01:42:37,040
now what about

2537
01:42:44,070 --> 01:42:41,040
uh there is a few things that have to

2538
01:42:47,270 --> 01:42:44,080
uh go in to play here

2539
01:42:49,430 --> 01:42:47,280
the first is was there you know

2540
01:42:51,109 --> 01:42:49,440
contacting the landowner you know

2541
01:42:53,910 --> 01:42:51,119
finding out if there was uh

2542
01:42:55,030 --> 01:42:53,920
anything going on uh back then that he

2543
01:42:57,350 --> 01:42:55,040
remembers

2544
01:42:59,109 --> 01:42:57,360
uh a birthday celebration whatever it

2545
01:43:02,310 --> 01:42:59,119
could have been or be

2546
01:43:04,310 --> 01:43:02,320
what were there any hot air balloons

2547
01:43:06,149 --> 01:43:04,320
in the area you know like santa fe new

2548
01:43:08,550 --> 01:43:06,159
mexico where they have these you know

2549
01:43:10,950 --> 01:43:08,560
things and was anybody launching any hot

2550
01:43:13,430 --> 01:43:10,960
air balloons does he remember that

2551
01:43:14,310 --> 01:43:13,440
is there a way to the next step

2552
01:43:17,510 --> 01:43:14,320
obviously

2553
01:43:21,030 --> 01:43:17,520
is uh to get a hold of uh

2554
01:43:23,510 --> 01:43:21,040
if it's possible uh to get a hold of uh

2555
01:43:25,270 --> 01:43:23,520
nail the date down you know go back to

2556
01:43:27,910 --> 01:43:25,280
the production schedule

2557
01:43:29,430 --> 01:43:27,920
find out uh the the date and time and

2558
01:43:31,590 --> 01:43:29,440
then contact the faa

2559
01:43:33,510 --> 01:43:31,600
was anything strange or was anything on

2560
01:43:34,550 --> 01:43:33,520
radar was there anything going on in

2561
01:43:36,950 --> 01:43:34,560
that location

2562
01:43:37,590 --> 01:43:36,960
and there's a way to follow up on all of

2563
01:43:40,790 --> 01:43:37,600
this

2564
01:43:45,030 --> 01:43:40,800
um and then of course the high res uh

2565
01:43:45,590 --> 01:43:45,040
4k uh raw video footage and being able

2566
01:43:48,709 --> 01:43:45,600
to grab

2567
01:43:50,470 --> 01:43:48,719
frames and enlarge that and to see

2568
01:43:53,590 --> 01:43:50,480
what's going on

2569
01:43:56,310 --> 01:43:53,600
well yeah all that stuff is is is

2570
01:43:58,390 --> 01:43:56,320
makes perfect sense and and we will do

2571
01:44:01,510 --> 01:43:58,400
that and i know that i'll get help

2572
01:44:03,030 --> 01:44:01,520
from holden with that as well but um and

2573
01:44:05,030 --> 01:44:03,040
i've made contact uh

2574
01:44:07,270 --> 01:44:05,040
he emailed me he emailed me about

2575
01:44:09,030 --> 01:44:07,280
something it was actually a mass email

2576
01:44:11,030 --> 01:44:09,040
but i was included on it why i was

2577
01:44:12,790 --> 01:44:11,040
included i have no idea but

2578
01:44:14,149 --> 01:44:12,800
there's your universe talking to me i

2579
01:44:15,990 --> 01:44:14,159
guess but i

2580
01:44:17,350 --> 01:44:16,000
i've gone back and forth with them i

2581
01:44:19,189 --> 01:44:17,360
haven't told them

2582
01:44:21,030 --> 01:44:19,199
what the subject matter was yet because

2583
01:44:21,590 --> 01:44:21,040
i was asking them general questions

2584
01:44:23,270 --> 01:44:21,600
about

2585
01:44:25,590 --> 01:44:23,280
do you still own the property and all of

2586
01:44:27,189 --> 01:44:25,600
that and so the last email i sent a

2587
01:44:28,470 --> 01:44:27,199
little while ago was hey do you have a

2588
01:44:31,510 --> 01:44:28,480
number i can give you a call

2589
01:44:32,070 --> 01:44:31,520
so so i'll be having a call with him and

2590
01:44:36,229 --> 01:44:32,080
i'm gonna

2591
01:44:38,870 --> 01:44:36,239
doesn't know why i'm why i contacted him

2592
01:44:41,109 --> 01:44:38,880
so uh well unless he's listening tonight

2593
01:44:42,950 --> 01:44:41,119
he might be finding out right now but

2594
01:44:45,109 --> 01:44:42,960
i plan to talk to him as soon as i get

2595
01:44:48,470 --> 01:44:45,119
that email i suspect in the morning

2596
01:44:49,270 --> 01:44:48,480
now uh moving on and again everybody

2597
01:44:52,550 --> 01:44:49,280
hashtag

2598
01:44:55,750 --> 01:44:52,560
breaking ufo we've got all this uh

2599
01:44:57,669 --> 01:44:55,760
uh video footage up from scott

2600
01:44:58,950 --> 01:44:57,679
we'll have other footage and other

2601
01:45:02,229 --> 01:44:58,960
imaging as

2602
01:45:05,030 --> 01:45:02,239
this just happened okay so

2603
01:45:06,310 --> 01:45:05,040
all of this is uh has been worked on in

2604
01:45:09,030 --> 01:45:06,320
the last seven days

2605
01:45:09,910 --> 01:45:09,040
uh we're working as fast as we can but

2606
01:45:12,950 --> 01:45:09,920
hashtag

2607
01:45:14,229 --> 01:45:12,960
breaking ufo and if you have anything

2608
01:45:17,590 --> 01:45:14,239
else that is

2609
01:45:19,750 --> 01:45:17,600
uh of interest of the ufo community that

2610
01:45:23,669 --> 01:45:19,760
you want us to know about

2611
01:45:27,590 --> 01:45:23,679
breaking ufo now it is tv week here

2612
01:45:28,390 --> 01:45:27,600
um and uh in the next segment i want to

2613
01:45:30,950 --> 01:45:28,400
talk about

2614
01:45:32,229 --> 01:45:30,960
what you did with dave schrader again

2615
01:45:35,189 --> 01:45:32,239
that's the universe

2616
01:45:35,669 --> 01:45:35,199
by the way right that you're on tonight

2617
01:45:37,350 --> 01:45:35,679
and

2618
01:45:38,870 --> 01:45:37,360
traitor is on tomorrow we'll talk about

2619
01:45:42,390 --> 01:45:38,880
that in the next segment

2620
01:45:45,030 --> 01:45:42,400
but synchronicities the

2621
01:45:46,149 --> 01:45:45,040
and i've said this about america

2622
01:45:48,310 --> 01:45:46,159
unearthed and

2623
01:45:50,070 --> 01:45:48,320
and everything that you have done scott

2624
01:45:53,830 --> 01:45:50,080
uh over the years

2625
01:45:57,189 --> 01:45:53,840
has been just a trail of breadcrumbs

2626
01:46:00,550 --> 01:45:57,199
a trail of synchronicities one thing

2627
01:46:01,030 --> 01:46:00,560
leading in to another how fortunate have

2628
01:46:03,430 --> 01:46:01,040
you

2629
01:46:04,629 --> 01:46:03,440
been going back to the kensington

2630
01:46:07,990 --> 01:46:04,639
runestone

2631
01:46:09,750 --> 01:46:08,000
and where you and the the trail right

2632
01:46:12,070 --> 01:46:09,760
that has been laid out in front of you

2633
01:46:14,310 --> 01:46:12,080
by the universe scott it's just been an

2634
01:46:16,870 --> 01:46:14,320
amazing journey

2635
01:46:17,510 --> 01:46:16,880
you know it's funny you say that jimmy

2636
01:46:19,430 --> 01:46:17,520
and and

2637
01:46:20,790 --> 01:46:19,440
here's another synchronicity that just

2638
01:46:23,109 --> 01:46:20,800
happened um

2639
01:46:24,870 --> 01:46:23,119
and and i don't want to sound like a

2640
01:46:26,790 --> 01:46:24,880
bragging or anything but i i was

2641
01:46:28,950 --> 01:46:26,800
asked today by the grand lodge of new

2642
01:46:31,270 --> 01:46:28,960
york that's going to be giving me a

2643
01:46:34,870 --> 01:46:31,280
special award

2644
01:46:35,270 --> 01:46:34,880
to do my bio to be included as part of

2645
01:46:40,790 --> 01:46:35,280
this

2646
01:46:41,669 --> 01:46:40,800
and i was writing out my bio and i got

2647
01:46:44,310 --> 01:46:41,679
to my

2648
01:46:45,109 --> 01:46:44,320
professional stuff merging into the tv

2649
01:46:47,510 --> 01:46:45,119
stuff

2650
01:46:49,750 --> 01:46:47,520
and i i had to stop and think about it

2651
01:46:53,270 --> 01:46:49,760
and go you know i have been lucky

2652
01:46:55,830 --> 01:46:53,280
i have had um i've been

2653
01:46:57,830 --> 01:46:55,840
in touch with you know so many good

2654
01:46:58,390 --> 01:46:57,840
people that have brought information to

2655
01:47:03,109 --> 01:46:58,400
me

2656
01:47:06,310 --> 01:47:03,119
university where i went to college

2657
01:47:06,790 --> 01:47:06,320
to my colleagues at work to people out

2658
01:47:09,030 --> 01:47:06,800
there

2659
01:47:09,910 --> 01:47:09,040
in the world that are working on various

2660
01:47:11,750 --> 01:47:09,920
aspects

2661
01:47:14,870 --> 01:47:11,760
that have artifacts that have shared

2662
01:47:17,030 --> 01:47:14,880
them with me given me access

2663
01:47:18,470 --> 01:47:17,040
that's not to say i haven't had trouble

2664
01:47:22,149 --> 01:47:18,480
mainly with

2665
01:47:23,030 --> 01:47:22,159
government institutions until holden

2666
01:47:25,510 --> 01:47:23,040
came along and

2667
01:47:27,510 --> 01:47:25,520
and that's been wonderful but you know i

2668
01:47:29,189 --> 01:47:27,520
have been very very fortunate and

2669
01:47:31,109 --> 01:47:29,199
i will say this when it comes to

2670
01:47:34,470 --> 01:47:31,119
synchronicities there have been two

2671
01:47:36,470 --> 01:47:34,480
things that have happened

2672
01:47:38,070 --> 01:47:36,480
one involving the kensington well one

2673
01:47:39,430 --> 01:47:38,080
involving the newport tower and the

2674
01:47:42,149 --> 01:47:39,440
kensington runestone

2675
01:47:43,189 --> 01:47:42,159
and one involving the bat creek stone

2676
01:47:45,910 --> 01:47:43,199
and

2677
01:47:46,390 --> 01:47:45,920
um you know the the runestone is is the

2678
01:47:48,629 --> 01:47:46,400
thing that

2679
01:47:50,229 --> 01:47:48,639
that that people probably think of me

2680
01:47:53,189 --> 01:47:50,239
more than anything

2681
01:47:53,510 --> 01:47:53,199
associated with but the newport towers

2682
01:47:57,430 --> 01:47:53,520
is

2683
01:47:59,350 --> 01:47:57,440
literally connected to it and in 2007 i

2684
01:48:01,350 --> 01:47:59,360
was there on the winter solstice my

2685
01:48:02,229 --> 01:48:01,360
birthday documenting this illumination

2686
01:48:05,990 --> 01:48:02,239
event

2687
01:48:08,790 --> 01:48:06,000
when this woman showed up and

2688
01:48:10,709 --> 01:48:08,800
uh was there the whole time i was there

2689
01:48:11,830 --> 01:48:10,719
waiting for this illumination to happen

2690
01:48:13,830 --> 01:48:11,840
for 45

2691
01:48:16,390 --> 01:48:13,840
minutes waiting for this light box to

2692
01:48:19,750 --> 01:48:16,400
illuminate the egg-shaped keystone

2693
01:48:22,790 --> 01:48:19,760
and you know it was that was

2694
01:48:25,430 --> 01:48:22,800
a moment an epiphany moment for me

2695
01:48:26,390 --> 01:48:25,440
when that thing lit up it was like

2696
01:48:29,109 --> 01:48:26,400
validation

2697
01:48:30,070 --> 01:48:29,119
of all the research that i had done with

2698
01:48:32,310 --> 01:48:30,080
many people

2699
01:48:33,750 --> 01:48:32,320
up to that point and it's just you just

2700
01:48:35,830 --> 01:48:33,760
feel it in your soul

2701
01:48:38,390 --> 01:48:35,840
you know you're on the right track and

2702
01:48:40,870 --> 01:48:38,400
this is the universe saying

2703
01:48:41,910 --> 01:48:40,880
good one brother here's a bonus and and

2704
01:48:44,950 --> 01:48:41,920
it was amazing

2705
01:48:47,430 --> 01:48:44,960
but this woman that was there

2706
01:48:48,470 --> 01:48:47,440
was there the the entire time for 45

2707
01:48:52,070 --> 01:48:48,480
minutes

2708
01:48:53,830 --> 01:48:52,080
and when the illumination happened of

2709
01:48:55,189 --> 01:48:53,840
course i went nuts right

2710
01:48:57,109 --> 01:48:55,199
and she looked at me and she said you

2711
01:48:59,109 --> 01:48:57,119
know i work in public relations

2712
01:49:00,870 --> 01:48:59,119
would you like me to take a picture of

2713
01:49:02,790 --> 01:49:00,880
you with that in the background

2714
01:49:04,629 --> 01:49:02,800
and i said great i had a backup camera i

2715
01:49:06,790 --> 01:49:04,639
gave it to her she snapped the picture

2716
01:49:08,790 --> 01:49:06,800
she gave me the camera back and and i've

2717
01:49:10,310 --> 01:49:08,800
been doing this already for 45 minutes

2718
01:49:11,910 --> 01:49:10,320
and i wanted to get the light moving off

2719
01:49:12,870 --> 01:49:11,920
the eggs so i turned around took another

2720
01:49:18,390 --> 01:49:12,880
picture

2721
01:49:22,229 --> 01:49:20,070
and there's no way she could have just

2722
01:49:24,310 --> 01:49:22,239
disappeared like that and i said to

2723
01:49:26,149 --> 01:49:24,320
myself at first i go well that was rude

2724
01:49:27,750 --> 01:49:26,159
i thought we were getting along

2725
01:49:30,709 --> 01:49:27,760
and then just a few seconds later i

2726
01:49:34,390 --> 01:49:30,719
realized i'm looking in the park

2727
01:49:36,070 --> 01:49:34,400
she just vanished and

2728
01:49:38,709 --> 01:49:36,080
the whole time i was there there wasn't

2729
01:49:42,070 --> 01:49:38,719
another soul that came by for 45 minutes

2730
01:49:44,510 --> 01:49:42,080
that never happens at the newport tower

2731
01:49:45,750 --> 01:49:44,520
and you know jim for the last that was

2732
01:49:48,470 --> 01:49:45,760
2009

2733
01:49:49,589 --> 01:49:48,480
um i didn't go this year because of

2734
01:49:52,550 --> 01:49:49,599
kovid

2735
01:49:53,910 --> 01:49:52,560
but every year since i have gone back to

2736
01:49:56,149 --> 01:49:53,920
the tower

2737
01:49:57,189 --> 01:49:56,159
to see if that woman would show up and

2738
01:50:00,229 --> 01:49:57,199
she hasn't

2739
01:50:01,030 --> 01:50:00,239
the reason is i think because i

2740
01:50:03,589 --> 01:50:01,040
published

2741
01:50:04,629 --> 01:50:03,599
this event in my latest book at the time

2742
01:50:06,870 --> 01:50:04,639
the hooked x

2743
01:50:08,790 --> 01:50:06,880
and now it's become a pilgrimage site so

2744
01:50:11,030 --> 01:50:08,800
i'm never going to be alone there again

2745
01:50:13,270 --> 01:50:11,040
right and of course janet says that's

2746
01:50:15,910 --> 01:50:13,280
why she's not going to show up because

2747
01:50:16,709 --> 01:50:15,920
you're not there alone well there's i

2748
01:50:19,990 --> 01:50:16,719
wanted to bring

2749
01:50:22,070 --> 01:50:20,000
this up um the uh

2750
01:50:23,990 --> 01:50:22,080
the series that you did i think it was

2751
01:50:25,830 --> 01:50:24,000
six or eight episodes the pirate

2752
01:50:27,189 --> 01:50:25,840
treasure pirate treasure of the knights

2753
01:50:29,910 --> 01:50:27,199
templar right

2754
01:50:31,270 --> 01:50:29,920
that was nothing but a string of

2755
01:50:33,350 --> 01:50:31,280
synchronicities

2756
01:50:34,790 --> 01:50:33,360
you were you were flying all over the

2757
01:50:37,270 --> 01:50:34,800
world chasing these

2758
01:50:38,950 --> 01:50:37,280
these these breadcrumbs these

2759
01:50:39,750 --> 01:50:38,960
synchronicities that were laid out in

2760
01:50:42,310 --> 01:50:39,760
front of you

2761
01:50:43,589 --> 01:50:42,320
that was a lot of fun to watch man you

2762
01:50:46,470 --> 01:50:43,599
know what jim and and

2763
01:50:48,390 --> 01:50:46,480
what you said is 100 right because when

2764
01:50:50,709 --> 01:50:48,400
i was brought into that show the reason

2765
01:50:52,629 --> 01:50:50,719
they wanted me to help out on that show

2766
01:50:54,390 --> 01:50:52,639
was they were just starting over in

2767
01:50:55,990 --> 01:50:54,400
madagascar and they could not get

2768
01:50:58,310 --> 01:50:56,000
permits from the government

2769
01:50:59,750 --> 01:50:58,320
to dive on these shipwrecks one of them

2770
01:51:01,669 --> 01:50:59,760
being captain cook's

2771
01:51:03,030 --> 01:51:01,679
you know treasure inside of his ship

2772
01:51:06,390 --> 01:51:03,040
that he had scuttled

2773
01:51:08,310 --> 01:51:06,400
so they're like we got nothing to shoot

2774
01:51:09,910 --> 01:51:08,320
so they called me and said hey you know

2775
01:51:10,470 --> 01:51:09,920
would you help us with this and i said

2776
01:51:11,910 --> 01:51:10,480
sure

2777
01:51:13,990 --> 01:51:11,920
well we need some knights templar

2778
01:51:15,189 --> 01:51:14,000
content and they said you know and and

2779
01:51:17,669 --> 01:51:15,199
they really had

2780
01:51:18,709 --> 01:51:17,679
honest to god they had no plan they had

2781
01:51:20,229 --> 01:51:18,719
no direction

2782
01:51:21,990 --> 01:51:20,239
they said well what should we do and i

2783
01:51:23,990 --> 01:51:22,000
said well the story of the templar

2784
01:51:26,790 --> 01:51:24,000
starts in jerusalem let's go there

2785
01:51:28,229 --> 01:51:26,800
and so we did and that's when we started

2786
01:51:29,910 --> 01:51:28,239
shooting and then one thing led to

2787
01:51:32,629 --> 01:51:29,920
another and then we went

2788
01:51:34,070 --> 01:51:32,639
you know to portugal we went to

2789
01:51:36,629 --> 01:51:34,080
madagascar we went to

2790
01:51:37,350 --> 01:51:36,639
england we went and then we went to

2791
01:51:40,870 --> 01:51:37,360
india

2792
01:51:43,990 --> 01:51:40,880
we were in

2793
01:51:45,030 --> 01:51:44,000
in the us but everything just fell into

2794
01:51:47,510 --> 01:51:45,040
place

2795
01:51:48,390 --> 01:51:47,520
because we were following the evidence

2796
01:51:51,109 --> 01:51:48,400
but

2797
01:51:51,990 --> 01:51:51,119
a lot of the stuff that happened jim

2798
01:51:54,629 --> 01:51:52,000
probably

2799
01:51:55,270 --> 01:51:54,639
shouldn't have happened it just fell in

2800
01:51:59,189 --> 01:51:55,280
our lap

2801
01:52:00,390 --> 01:51:59,199
and i don't know i don't know why but

2802
01:52:03,270 --> 01:52:00,400
i'm grateful

2803
01:52:05,109 --> 01:52:03,280
but it was one of the most it was a

2804
01:52:07,189 --> 01:52:05,119
really fun experience

2805
01:52:08,229 --> 01:52:07,199
i will tell you that we had a great time

2806
01:52:10,870 --> 01:52:08,239
doing that now

2807
01:52:12,070 --> 01:52:10,880
do you think that uh especially with

2808
01:52:15,589 --> 01:52:12,080
hindsight

2809
01:52:20,229 --> 01:52:15,599
um looking back that

2810
01:52:24,149 --> 01:52:20,239
all of this was eventually going to lead

2811
01:52:27,350 --> 01:52:24,159
to the possibility of of aliens and e.t

2812
01:52:30,470 --> 01:52:27,360
and extraterrestrial contact um

2813
01:52:32,629 --> 01:52:30,480
here on earth that uh because i mention

2814
01:52:33,669 --> 01:52:32,639
this all the time scott that what i have

2815
01:52:36,470 --> 01:52:33,679
found

2816
01:52:37,189 --> 01:52:36,480
in my research with ancient history

2817
01:52:40,310 --> 01:52:37,199
whether it's

2818
01:52:44,310 --> 01:52:40,320
it's central or south america or

2819
01:52:47,430 --> 01:52:44,320
or egypt or or asia

2820
01:52:51,030 --> 01:52:47,440
europe it always

2821
01:52:52,229 --> 01:52:51,040
seems to connect itself back into ets

2822
01:52:55,109 --> 01:52:52,239
and consciousness

2823
01:52:57,589 --> 01:52:55,119
and and physics that we can't explain

2824
01:52:59,750 --> 01:52:57,599
that everything is connected

2825
01:53:03,350 --> 01:52:59,760
did it seem to you that you would end up

2826
01:53:06,470 --> 01:53:03,360
where you are now when it comes to e.t

2827
01:53:06,870 --> 01:53:06,480
well you know what i i i never would

2828
01:53:10,629 --> 01:53:06,880
have

2829
01:53:13,270 --> 01:53:10,639
thought that but the more that

2830
01:53:15,350 --> 01:53:13,280
the more that we sort of the more we

2831
01:53:16,390 --> 01:53:15,360
talk about this the more i think about

2832
01:53:20,149 --> 01:53:16,400
it

2833
01:53:22,149 --> 01:53:20,159
progression

2834
01:53:23,350 --> 01:53:22,159
and you know i just texted you a

2835
01:53:25,030 --> 01:53:23,360
photograph

2836
01:53:27,430 --> 01:53:25,040
so if you get a chance to take a look at

2837
01:53:28,790 --> 01:53:27,440
it but what i wanted to say to you was

2838
01:53:32,629 --> 01:53:28,800
that one of the reasons

2839
01:53:36,149 --> 01:53:32,639
that um this guy with the government

2840
01:53:36,629 --> 01:53:36,159
contacted me was um you know he thought

2841
01:53:39,189 --> 01:53:36,639
that

2842
01:53:41,350 --> 01:53:39,199
we could help them with this this

2843
01:53:43,430 --> 01:53:41,360
rollout of disclosure because they

2844
01:53:45,109 --> 01:53:43,440
he felt that we had some credibility and

2845
01:53:47,510 --> 01:53:45,119
i appreciate that

2846
01:53:49,109 --> 01:53:47,520
um but he also said part of it is

2847
01:53:52,470 --> 01:53:49,119
because there's a freemason

2848
01:53:56,470 --> 01:53:52,480
connection to this whole et

2849
01:53:59,189 --> 01:53:56,480
phenomena i said freemasonry and

2850
01:54:01,030 --> 01:53:59,199
i you know he said well yeah we we think

2851
01:54:02,870 --> 01:54:01,040
so and so we've had some

2852
01:54:05,910 --> 01:54:02,880
discussions about that and i have

2853
01:54:08,229 --> 01:54:05,920
started to think about that a little bit

2854
01:54:09,990 --> 01:54:08,239
now do you have that picture i'm looking

2855
01:54:13,990 --> 01:54:10,000
at it right now yes

2856
01:54:17,510 --> 01:54:14,000
okay well this is in a basilica

2857
01:54:18,470 --> 01:54:17,520
in covington kentucky which is the

2858
01:54:21,510 --> 01:54:18,480
sister

2859
01:54:23,109 --> 01:54:21,520
city to cincinnati

2860
01:54:24,790 --> 01:54:23,119
cincinnati is on the northern part of

2861
01:54:27,669 --> 01:54:24,800
the i think it's the ohio river

2862
01:54:28,070 --> 01:54:27,679
and covington is is on the south side

2863
01:54:31,669 --> 01:54:28,080
and

2864
01:54:35,669 --> 01:54:31,679
facade

2865
01:54:38,870 --> 01:54:35,679
is an exact replication of the west side

2866
01:54:41,109 --> 01:54:38,880
of notre dame cathedral minus the towers

2867
01:54:43,750 --> 01:54:41,119
i mean it's exactly the same

2868
01:54:45,510 --> 01:54:43,760
and it's beautiful but inside this

2869
01:54:48,709 --> 01:54:45,520
basilica is some of the most

2870
01:54:50,629 --> 01:54:48,719
heretical imagery

2871
01:54:52,390 --> 01:54:50,639
and symbolism that you'll see anywhere

2872
01:54:56,149 --> 01:54:52,400
and this picture is one of them

2873
01:54:59,830 --> 01:54:56,159
now when you first look at it you see

2874
01:55:00,790 --> 01:54:59,840
jesus on the cross and you see mary

2875
01:55:03,589 --> 01:55:00,800
magdalene

2876
01:55:04,070 --> 01:55:03,599
her colors down at the base of the cross

2877
01:55:07,350 --> 01:55:04,080
praying

2878
01:55:09,430 --> 01:55:07,360
looking up at her her husband

2879
01:55:11,350 --> 01:55:09,440
and you see three skulls to the right of

2880
01:55:12,790 --> 01:55:11,360
her that when you look at the

2881
01:55:15,430 --> 01:55:12,800
orientation of the

2882
01:55:17,270 --> 01:55:15,440
east wall of the walled city in

2883
01:55:20,229 --> 01:55:17,280
jerusalem

2884
01:55:21,510 --> 01:55:20,239
those skulls are in the east west and

2885
01:55:23,990 --> 01:55:21,520
south quadrants

2886
01:55:26,229 --> 01:55:24,000
that just so happen to correspond to

2887
01:55:27,990 --> 01:55:26,239
where the three officer highest officers

2888
01:55:30,629 --> 01:55:28,000
sit in a masonic lodge

2889
01:55:31,750 --> 01:55:30,639
and templar commandery but if we look at

2890
01:55:35,910 --> 01:55:31,760
jesus

2891
01:55:37,990 --> 01:55:35,920
do you see that dude in the red gown

2892
01:55:40,709 --> 01:55:38,000
yeah behind him sort of floating in the

2893
01:55:43,750 --> 01:55:40,719
air yep i'm looking at him now

2894
01:55:45,510 --> 01:55:43,760
who the heck is that now i i the only

2895
01:55:47,589 --> 01:55:45,520
guess i have is that's got to be god

2896
01:55:51,510 --> 01:55:47,599
right

2897
01:55:55,350 --> 01:55:51,520
there

2898
01:55:58,229 --> 01:55:55,360
don't ask me the question to get me

2899
01:55:58,629 --> 01:55:58,239
to stumble help me help me i can't i

2900
01:56:01,270 --> 01:55:58,639
can't

2901
01:56:02,229 --> 01:56:01,280
say if that's god i mean that's like the

2902
01:56:06,629 --> 01:56:02,239
ultimate question

2903
01:56:09,350 --> 01:56:06,639
is that god jimmy jimmy is that god

2904
01:56:11,830 --> 01:56:09,360
we're friends okay if you can't come up

2905
01:56:13,270 --> 01:56:11,840
with anybody else i'm gonna say it i i

2906
01:56:16,229 --> 01:56:13,280
suspect that's god

2907
01:56:17,510 --> 01:56:16,239
now look closer zoom in on his head i am

2908
01:56:19,510 --> 01:56:17,520
do you see that

2909
01:56:20,709 --> 01:56:19,520
upward pointing triangle yeah the

2910
01:56:23,109 --> 01:56:20,719
pyramid

2911
01:56:23,990 --> 01:56:23,119
okay well that is you know an upward

2912
01:56:26,870 --> 01:56:24,000
pointing

2913
01:56:27,270 --> 01:56:26,880
triangle is a symbol of the male right

2914
01:56:30,070 --> 01:56:27,280
and

2915
01:56:31,589 --> 01:56:30,080
one aspect of that symbolism now if you

2916
01:56:33,910 --> 01:56:31,599
look above his head

2917
01:56:37,350 --> 01:56:33,920
you see a dove right i see a ray of

2918
01:56:41,350 --> 01:56:37,360
light coming off the top of the triangle

2919
01:56:41,990 --> 01:56:41,360
going up to a dove yes but you see the

2920
01:56:43,589 --> 01:56:42,000
god rays

2921
01:56:45,510 --> 01:56:43,599
coming off the dove going in all

2922
01:56:48,629 --> 01:56:45,520
directions yes i do

2923
01:56:51,430 --> 01:56:48,639
okay the god rays are coming off of

2924
01:56:52,229 --> 01:56:51,440
the dove which is a symbol of the holy

2925
01:56:54,149 --> 01:56:52,239
spirit

2926
01:56:55,510 --> 01:56:54,159
which is the feminine aspect of the

2927
01:56:57,910 --> 01:56:55,520
godhead i.e

2928
01:56:59,350 --> 01:56:57,920
the goddess and if you take that

2929
01:57:03,350 --> 01:56:59,360
triangle

2930
01:57:04,149 --> 01:57:03,360
and you flip it um 180 degrees with the

2931
01:57:06,550 --> 01:57:04,159
point down

2932
01:57:07,589 --> 01:57:06,560
it'll fit perfectly around that dove

2933
01:57:10,870 --> 01:57:07,599
won't it

2934
01:57:13,270 --> 01:57:10,880
yes yes it would it would okay

2935
01:57:13,990 --> 01:57:13,280
now here's where it gets fun you've

2936
01:57:15,990 --> 01:57:14,000
never seen

2937
01:57:17,430 --> 01:57:16,000
an image of jesus on the cross like this

2938
01:57:19,830 --> 01:57:17,440
before no i have not

2939
01:57:20,470 --> 01:57:19,840
it's uh it's a very you know what i'm

2940
01:57:23,510 --> 01:57:20,480
gonna say

2941
01:57:25,510 --> 01:57:23,520
also it's a pretty amazing painting

2942
01:57:27,350 --> 01:57:25,520
it's actually beautiful yeah it's pretty

2943
01:57:29,430 --> 01:57:27,360
amazing it's pretty amazing but and it's

2944
01:57:30,390 --> 01:57:29,440
actually in three parts which you can

2945
01:57:33,589 --> 01:57:30,400
see if you

2946
01:57:34,550 --> 01:57:33,599
yeah there's two more panels on the

2947
01:57:36,470 --> 01:57:34,560
sides and right

2948
01:57:38,470 --> 01:57:36,480
there they it gets into you know

2949
01:57:40,149 --> 01:57:38,480
biblical scenes that i've seen

2950
01:57:42,390 --> 01:57:40,159
in some of our masonic degrees but

2951
01:57:45,030 --> 01:57:42,400
that's another story but what i want to

2952
01:57:46,550 --> 01:57:45,040
bring to your attention that i think

2953
01:57:50,470 --> 01:57:46,560
gets lost in this

2954
01:57:53,830 --> 01:57:50,480
painting is do you see those angels

2955
01:57:55,589 --> 01:57:53,840
i do okay

2956
01:57:58,390 --> 01:57:55,599
and you've heard of the archangels too

2957
01:58:00,709 --> 01:57:58,400
right yes scott i have

2958
01:58:01,589 --> 01:58:00,719
and they just they're kind of up in the

2959
01:58:03,750 --> 01:58:01,599
sky right

2960
01:58:06,709 --> 01:58:03,760
yes they have wings so they can fly

2961
01:58:08,629 --> 01:58:06,719
around do whatever they want right yes

2962
01:58:10,629 --> 01:58:08,639
do you see where i'm going with this uh

2963
01:58:13,750 --> 01:58:10,639
yes

2964
01:58:15,990 --> 01:58:13,760
i i'm not saying i'm just saying

2965
01:58:17,830 --> 01:58:16,000
and i'm gonna ask you the question jim

2966
01:58:20,470 --> 01:58:17,840
because i don't know the answer

2967
01:58:21,430 --> 01:58:20,480
yes what are those angels in this

2968
01:58:25,030 --> 01:58:21,440
painting

2969
01:58:28,229 --> 01:58:25,040
help me all right help us all uh what's

2970
01:58:31,669 --> 01:58:28,239
okay this is what i find stranger

2971
01:58:35,030 --> 01:58:31,679
uh about that uh about this painting

2972
01:58:37,350 --> 01:58:35,040
is the god

2973
01:58:39,030 --> 01:58:37,360
seems to be resting standing on a

2974
01:58:42,870 --> 01:58:39,040
platform

2975
01:58:46,550 --> 01:58:42,880
of clouds of clouds and and the way that

2976
01:58:49,109 --> 01:58:46,560
his uh and he's in a red

2977
01:58:50,550 --> 01:58:49,119
uh he's in red garb you know i don't

2978
01:58:52,950 --> 01:58:50,560
know what you would call that

2979
01:58:53,750 --> 01:58:52,960
yeah it's a strange garb i've never seen

2980
01:58:57,109 --> 01:58:53,760
anything like it

2981
01:58:58,709 --> 01:58:57,119
and and uh with the uh with the orange

2982
01:58:59,990 --> 01:58:58,719
and the and the diamonds coming off of

2983
01:59:03,270 --> 01:59:00,000
both sides pretty strange

2984
01:59:06,310 --> 01:59:03,280
it's it's yeah it's strange looking um

2985
01:59:08,629 --> 01:59:06,320
and the cloud looks like

2986
01:59:09,510 --> 01:59:08,639
a cloud it's like it's supposed to be a

2987
01:59:12,470 --> 01:59:09,520
cloud

2988
01:59:14,870 --> 01:59:12,480
but it also rita says she's posting it

2989
01:59:17,030 --> 01:59:14,880
yeah go ahead and post the picture rita

2990
01:59:18,470 --> 01:59:17,040
um i took that picture so it's okay to

2991
01:59:22,629 --> 01:59:18,480
do that yep yep yep

2992
01:59:26,070 --> 01:59:22,639
and uh it's a strange platform

2993
01:59:27,990 --> 01:59:26,080
i mean that's yeah that's and you notice

2994
01:59:30,950 --> 01:59:28,000
another thing wow that's a really good

2995
01:59:33,350 --> 01:59:30,960
not a christian style cross that's a tau

2996
01:59:37,270 --> 01:59:35,589
this is pretty cool this is uh yeah

2997
01:59:37,750 --> 01:59:37,280
because there's no extension on the top

2998
01:59:40,229 --> 01:59:37,760
either

2999
01:59:41,750 --> 01:59:40,239
exactly exactly and notice how he's got

3000
01:59:44,390 --> 01:59:41,760
four nails and not three

3001
01:59:46,390 --> 01:59:44,400
yes now that was my next question okay

3002
01:59:47,750 --> 01:59:46,400
um look i've i've got to take a break

3003
01:59:51,430 --> 01:59:47,760
right here

3004
01:59:53,669 --> 01:59:51,440
but there are four nails and not three

3005
01:59:54,950 --> 01:59:53,679
yeah and uh and i know what that is okay

3006
01:59:56,870 --> 01:59:54,960
stop stop right there

3007
01:59:58,229 --> 01:59:56,880
we'll talk about that when we come back

3008
02:00:01,030 --> 01:59:58,239
this is fade to block

3009
02:00:02,149 --> 02:00:01,040
the one and only scott walter this is

3010
02:00:05,750 --> 02:00:02,159
why

3011
02:00:08,550 --> 02:00:05,760
scott is on the show right here scott

3012
02:00:09,990 --> 02:00:08,560
absolutely amazing this is black i'm

3013
02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:10,000
your host jimmy church we'll be right

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02:00:17,430 --> 02:00:12,250
back stay with us

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02:00:25,109 --> 02:00:19,189
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man breaking ufo is uh is hopping right

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now

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02:04:14,310 --> 02:04:12,079
hashtag breaking ufo i was uh

3100
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i was so looking forward to our ufo

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community

3102
02:04:24,470 --> 02:04:21,440
uh hashtag breaking ufo um

3103
02:04:25,669 --> 02:04:24,480
eric awakening man just posted up uh a

3104
02:04:28,550 --> 02:04:25,679
night vision video

3105
02:04:30,709 --> 02:04:28,560
i don't know when this was taken uh uh

3106
02:04:32,950 --> 02:04:30,719
eric maybe you can explain this but uh

3107
02:04:35,430 --> 02:04:32,960
that's a that's a pretty interesting

3108
02:04:36,229 --> 02:04:35,440
uh i'm looking at the source here i'm

3109
02:04:39,589 --> 02:04:36,239
assuming that

3110
02:04:43,589 --> 02:04:39,599
is over sedona uh pretty cool

3111
02:04:46,069 --> 02:04:43,599
um scott have you been to sedona

3112
02:04:47,990 --> 02:04:46,079
yes i sure have that's a that's a that's

3113
02:04:50,069 --> 02:04:48,000
a hot spot isn't it

3114
02:04:51,510 --> 02:04:50,079
it well that's what i'm learning i mean

3115
02:04:53,990 --> 02:04:51,520
i was there for

3116
02:04:55,270 --> 02:04:54,000
uh shooting and shooting an episode of

3117
02:04:57,510 --> 02:04:55,280
america on earth but

3118
02:04:58,790 --> 02:04:57,520
i've also spent time there just

3119
02:05:01,750 --> 02:04:58,800
vacationing

3120
02:05:02,709 --> 02:05:01,760
and geologically it's it's absolutely

3121
02:05:05,589 --> 02:05:02,719
fantastic

3122
02:05:06,069 --> 02:05:05,599
so if you've never been there um it's

3123
02:05:07,990 --> 02:05:06,079
just

3124
02:05:09,270 --> 02:05:08,000
it's a postcard no matter where you are

3125
02:05:12,069 --> 02:05:09,280
if you get up high it's

3126
02:05:13,669 --> 02:05:12,079
it's it's gorgeous and there's a lot of

3127
02:05:16,950 --> 02:05:13,679
caves a lot of canyons

3128
02:05:19,990 --> 02:05:16,960
and you know

3129
02:05:23,430 --> 02:05:20,000
possibly portals who knows

3130
02:05:24,470 --> 02:05:23,440
but it is known for high uh activity is

3131
02:05:27,350 --> 02:05:24,480
my understanding

3132
02:05:28,550 --> 02:05:27,360
now uh let's get back to this image okay

3133
02:05:34,069 --> 02:05:28,560
uh what do you think is

3134
02:05:35,830 --> 02:05:34,079
well i think there's a lot of things

3135
02:05:37,830 --> 02:05:35,840
that are going on obviously the person

3136
02:05:38,709 --> 02:05:37,840
who painted this was initiated with a

3137
02:05:42,550 --> 02:05:38,719
lot of

3138
02:05:45,030 --> 02:05:42,560
um esoteric knowledge um starting with

3139
02:05:46,709 --> 02:05:45,040
the colors of mary magdalene uh being

3140
02:05:48,069 --> 02:05:46,719
and and her being at the base of the

3141
02:05:51,350 --> 02:05:48,079
cross with jesus

3142
02:05:54,149 --> 02:05:51,360
and the three skulls are uh

3143
02:05:56,550 --> 02:05:54,159
to me next to the tomb indicate someone

3144
02:06:00,069 --> 02:05:56,560
with knowledge of the telpaya tomb

3145
02:06:01,830 --> 02:06:00,079
where the uh mortal remains of the royal

3146
02:06:04,870 --> 02:06:01,840
family are believed to have been

3147
02:06:07,750 --> 02:06:04,880
housed if you look up telpio tomb

3148
02:06:09,270 --> 02:06:07,760
you'll you'll read all about it um so

3149
02:06:11,589 --> 02:06:09,280
they obviously knew about that

3150
02:06:12,310 --> 02:06:11,599
but there's more going on here i mean

3151
02:06:15,830 --> 02:06:12,320
this

3152
02:06:18,390 --> 02:06:15,840
that's very

3153
02:06:19,910 --> 02:06:18,400
interesting and you know the fact that

3154
02:06:22,790 --> 02:06:19,920
this dub is elevated

3155
02:06:23,430 --> 02:06:22,800
above what appears to be an image of a

3156
02:06:25,430 --> 02:06:23,440
male

3157
02:06:26,550 --> 02:06:25,440
god if you will i don't know who else it

3158
02:06:29,990 --> 02:06:26,560
would be

3159
02:06:33,750 --> 02:06:30,000
um but her being elevated

3160
02:06:35,270 --> 02:06:33,760
above god is consistent with certain

3161
02:06:37,910 --> 02:06:35,280
esoteric beliefs

3162
02:06:39,990 --> 02:06:37,920
including the true ideology of the

3163
02:06:43,189 --> 02:06:40,000
templar lineage so

3164
02:06:44,069 --> 02:06:43,199
all of that is you know if you know what

3165
02:06:46,390 --> 02:06:44,079
to look for

3166
02:06:48,229 --> 02:06:46,400
you'll see it there otherwise most

3167
02:06:48,709 --> 02:06:48,239
christians will just see jesus on the

3168
02:06:51,910 --> 02:06:48,719
cross

3169
02:06:53,270 --> 02:06:51,920
and and you know and go on their way but

3170
02:06:55,109 --> 02:06:53,280
you know

3171
02:06:57,109 --> 02:06:55,119
that's the thing about this artwork and

3172
02:07:00,069 --> 02:06:57,119
it's not just medieval art

3173
02:07:02,229 --> 02:07:00,079
renaissance era art there are initiated

3174
02:07:03,990 --> 02:07:02,239
artists that are incorporating secrets

3175
02:07:07,669 --> 02:07:04,000
into their art to this very day

3176
02:07:11,350 --> 02:07:07,679
yes and then scott isn't there um

3177
02:07:13,430 --> 02:07:11,360
isn't there a rules committee for

3178
02:07:14,790 --> 02:07:13,440
religious artwork i've often thought

3179
02:07:17,910 --> 02:07:14,800
about this like

3180
02:07:19,430 --> 02:07:17,920
um okay the cross has got to be painted

3181
02:07:23,109 --> 02:07:19,440
this way

3182
02:07:26,950 --> 02:07:23,119
right there there are three

3183
02:07:30,629 --> 02:07:26,960
nails right and you see um the

3184
02:07:32,950 --> 02:07:30,639
uh you see crosses

3185
02:07:33,990 --> 02:07:32,960
people wear them with jesus right around

3186
02:07:36,709 --> 02:07:34,000
their neck

3187
02:07:38,390 --> 02:07:36,719
they are throughout churches they are

3188
02:07:41,270 --> 02:07:38,400
they're in people's homes

3189
02:07:43,270 --> 02:07:41,280
and i've always gone up to look and and

3190
02:07:47,109 --> 02:07:43,280
and count the nails and i

3191
02:07:50,950 --> 02:07:47,119
it's usually three once in a while

3192
02:07:53,669 --> 02:07:50,960
it's four and that always throws me off

3193
02:07:54,069 --> 02:07:53,679
where are the where are the standards

3194
02:07:57,189 --> 02:07:54,079
right

3195
02:07:58,709 --> 02:07:57,199
where the cross is uh incorrectly

3196
02:08:01,990 --> 02:07:58,719
painted here

3197
02:08:03,109 --> 02:08:02,000
and there are also four nails i don't

3198
02:08:05,589 --> 02:08:03,119
know if i've ever seen

3199
02:08:07,589 --> 02:08:05,599
god in a painting by the way i don't

3200
02:08:07,990 --> 02:08:07,599
know either and you notice how jesus is

3201
02:08:11,270 --> 02:08:08,000
standing

3202
02:08:13,750 --> 02:08:11,280
on a little ledge yes

3203
02:08:15,589 --> 02:08:13,760
yes i i i don't think i've ever seen

3204
02:08:17,830 --> 02:08:15,599
that before either you know they're

3205
02:08:18,629 --> 02:08:17,840
helping them out there a little bit and

3206
02:08:21,910 --> 02:08:18,639
no this is

3207
02:08:24,229 --> 02:08:21,920
this is absolutely um

3208
02:08:25,270 --> 02:08:24,239
i would i would go as far to say is

3209
02:08:28,790 --> 02:08:25,280
heretical

3210
02:08:30,149 --> 02:08:28,800
with regard to what you know the the

3211
02:08:32,149 --> 02:08:30,159
roman church

3212
02:08:34,470 --> 02:08:32,159
uh what their standards should be now i

3213
02:08:35,270 --> 02:08:34,480
don't know if they even have a book of

3214
02:08:37,430 --> 02:08:35,280
standards

3215
02:08:38,790 --> 02:08:37,440
for what should be depicted but i gotta

3216
02:08:41,990 --> 02:08:38,800
believe they do

3217
02:08:43,830 --> 02:08:42,000
and this just doesn't doesn't cut it but

3218
02:08:45,030 --> 02:08:43,840
yet here it is in a roman catholic

3219
02:08:47,430 --> 02:08:45,040
basilica

3220
02:08:49,910 --> 02:08:47,440
that's that's absolutely beautiful and

3221
02:08:50,470 --> 02:08:49,920
it has a monastery attached to it so

3222
02:08:56,870 --> 02:08:50,480
it's on

3223
02:08:59,750 --> 02:08:56,880
painted in 1917 by the way i know that

3224
02:09:00,229 --> 02:08:59,760
but what this what this guy was thinking

3225
02:09:05,109 --> 02:09:00,239
about

3226
02:09:06,550 --> 02:09:05,119
standard church dogma i can tell you

3227
02:09:09,350 --> 02:09:06,560
that he was initiated

3228
02:09:10,149 --> 02:09:09,360
probably a freemason i suspect or a

3229
02:09:13,109 --> 02:09:10,159
member of

3230
02:09:14,390 --> 02:09:13,119
of some order that believed in a

3231
02:09:15,669 --> 02:09:14,400
slightly different version of

3232
02:09:18,069 --> 02:09:15,679
christianity but jim

3233
02:09:20,709 --> 02:09:18,079
you have not answered my question i know

3234
02:09:23,030 --> 02:09:20,719
the audience wants to know

3235
02:09:25,589 --> 02:09:23,040
who are those angels at the top of this

3236
02:09:28,229 --> 02:09:25,599
painting those are et's

3237
02:09:31,270 --> 02:09:28,239
telling telling jesus how to build the

3238
02:09:33,030 --> 02:09:31,280
pyramid in giza

3239
02:09:35,030 --> 02:09:33,040
you know what it could be interpreted

3240
02:09:37,350 --> 02:09:35,040
that way it absolutely could

3241
02:09:39,189 --> 02:09:37,360
who are the angels here there's 26

3242
02:09:41,109 --> 02:09:39,199
there's 13 on each side

3243
02:09:42,870 --> 02:09:41,119
right uh they go on they go into the

3244
02:09:44,149 --> 02:09:42,880
panels on the right and the left there's

3245
02:09:47,030 --> 02:09:44,159
a total of 26.

3246
02:09:47,350 --> 02:09:47,040
i was just joking i'm gonna get struck

3247
02:09:49,589 --> 02:09:47,360
by

3248
02:09:50,790 --> 02:09:49,599
lightning i need to be very careful with

3249
02:09:54,310 --> 02:09:50,800
the jokes here

3250
02:09:57,669 --> 02:09:54,320
um i look i see um

3251
02:10:01,109 --> 02:09:57,679
i see i don't know if it

3252
02:10:03,750 --> 02:10:01,119
is um a craft

3253
02:10:05,270 --> 02:10:03,760
i think that's the wrong word but i see

3254
02:10:09,030 --> 02:10:05,280
a platform

3255
02:10:11,270 --> 02:10:09,040
i see i see whoever this gentleman is

3256
02:10:12,390 --> 02:10:11,280
and it's probably supposed to be god

3257
02:10:14,390 --> 02:10:12,400
i've never seen god

3258
02:10:15,430 --> 02:10:14,400
in a painting before so i'm thrown off

3259
02:10:18,629 --> 02:10:15,440
by this

3260
02:10:21,910 --> 02:10:18,639
but it's a platform that

3261
02:10:24,870 --> 02:10:21,920
is up that he is standing on

3262
02:10:25,990 --> 02:10:24,880
right and and the cloud is flat if it is

3263
02:10:29,750 --> 02:10:26,000
a cloud

3264
02:10:33,350 --> 02:10:29,760
and everything else is also perched upon

3265
02:10:35,430 --> 02:10:33,360
this this cloud you can see

3266
02:10:37,669 --> 02:10:35,440
on the other panels on the left and

3267
02:10:41,189 --> 02:10:37,679
right these angels are standing on the

3268
02:10:46,790 --> 02:10:44,470
you know and jim when when i pulled my

3269
02:10:50,390 --> 02:10:46,800
phone back and i looked at this picture

3270
02:10:52,310 --> 02:10:50,400
it's almost like his garb

3271
02:10:54,149 --> 02:10:52,320
and those clouds behind his car they

3272
02:10:57,350 --> 02:10:54,159
almost look like eyes it's like a

3273
02:10:59,830 --> 02:10:57,360
face that's looking at you or it looks

3274
02:11:02,870 --> 02:10:59,840
like it could be

3275
02:11:03,350 --> 02:11:02,880
a ship i mean i know i know i know i i

3276
02:11:04,870 --> 02:11:03,360
don't know

3277
02:11:06,550 --> 02:11:04,880
i mean i i mean we're getting out there

3278
02:11:09,189 --> 02:11:06,560
a little bit but we are

3279
02:11:10,069 --> 02:11:09,199
but look it it's but it's a mirror image

3280
02:11:12,310 --> 02:11:10,079
the clouds are

3281
02:11:13,589 --> 02:11:12,320
a mirror image of each other that's not

3282
02:11:16,870 --> 02:11:13,599
how clouds are

3283
02:11:17,510 --> 02:11:16,880
yeah if you follow me i do i i'm looking

3284
02:11:21,350 --> 02:11:17,520
at

3285
02:11:24,550 --> 02:11:21,360
uh uh look we have okay

3286
02:11:27,350 --> 02:11:24,560
there there's another part to this

3287
02:11:28,550 --> 02:11:27,360
mary if that is mary and i'm assuming

3288
02:11:30,669 --> 02:11:28,560
that it's mary

3289
02:11:32,310 --> 02:11:30,679
she's on the ground there is a

3290
02:11:35,589 --> 02:11:32,320
separation

3291
02:11:38,629 --> 02:11:35,599
of what is happening here everything is

3292
02:11:41,910 --> 02:11:38,639
above her it is off of the ground

3293
02:11:42,550 --> 02:11:41,920
and that would suggest to me another

3294
02:11:46,390 --> 02:11:42,560
world

3295
02:11:46,790 --> 02:11:46,400
another place other people separated

3296
02:11:50,229 --> 02:11:46,800
from

3297
02:11:52,790 --> 02:11:50,239
earth that is that is what i

3298
02:11:54,950 --> 02:11:52,800
see happening here she is looking that's

3299
02:11:57,910 --> 02:11:54,960
a great interpretation jim that's

3300
02:11:59,750 --> 02:11:57,920
that's that's a great observation i

3301
02:12:02,149 --> 02:11:59,760
agree with you now that you mention it

3302
02:12:02,870 --> 02:12:02,159
yeah yeah that that's a great painting

3303
02:12:07,189 --> 02:12:02,880
man

3304
02:12:09,990 --> 02:12:07,199
i uh you know what i um i was at uh

3305
02:12:10,470 --> 02:12:10,000
uh i do this all the time when i'm in a

3306
02:12:13,350 --> 02:12:10,480
church

3307
02:12:14,069 --> 02:12:13,360
i'm looking at the paintings and uh we

3308
02:12:16,790 --> 02:12:14,079
were

3309
02:12:17,669 --> 02:12:16,800
uh there's a church that we go to here

3310
02:12:22,470 --> 02:12:17,679
for

3311
02:12:25,350 --> 02:12:22,480
events with the family

3312
02:12:26,950 --> 02:12:25,360
and and i'm looking around and i started

3313
02:12:28,069 --> 02:12:26,960
i'm going to send you the pic i started

3314
02:12:30,950 --> 02:12:28,079
snapping pictures

3315
02:12:33,189 --> 02:12:30,960
now look i feel weird about doing that

3316
02:12:35,030 --> 02:12:33,199
in a church because everybody is going

3317
02:12:36,550 --> 02:12:35,040
through the ceremony they're doing their

3318
02:12:38,390 --> 02:12:36,560
thing what am i doing

3319
02:12:41,589 --> 02:12:38,400
i'm looking around wow that's pretty

3320
02:12:45,270 --> 02:12:41,599
trippy snap you and me both

3321
02:12:46,950 --> 02:12:45,280
that's pretty trippy snap and and i'm

3322
02:12:49,990 --> 02:12:46,960
taking pictures i'm looking

3323
02:12:53,430 --> 02:12:50,000
at the religious artwork and and what is

3324
02:12:55,910 --> 02:12:53,440
actually going on right and and

3325
02:12:57,030 --> 02:12:55,920
you know we call that and we do this all

3326
02:12:58,870 --> 02:12:57,040
the time jen and i

3327
02:13:01,030 --> 02:12:58,880
and i've got a couple friends that like

3328
02:13:03,830 --> 02:13:01,040
to do this we call it churching

3329
02:13:04,390 --> 02:13:03,840
let's go church and we'll drive around

3330
02:13:06,069 --> 02:13:04,400
and we'll

3331
02:13:07,750 --> 02:13:06,079
you know even in our own town here but

3332
02:13:10,069 --> 02:13:07,760
if we're out of town

3333
02:13:11,350 --> 02:13:10,079
um god where was that place we stopped

3334
02:13:14,149 --> 02:13:11,360
jan we saw those

3335
02:13:16,229 --> 02:13:14,159
five churches up on the hill that just i

3336
02:13:19,030 --> 02:13:16,239
i had to pull over we're driving we're

3337
02:13:21,109 --> 02:13:19,040
literally driving through western that

3338
02:13:22,550 --> 02:13:21,119
was western pennsylvania wasn't it

3339
02:13:24,709 --> 02:13:22,560
i can't remember the name of the place

3340
02:13:25,910 --> 02:13:24,719
but it was so beautiful we just pulled

3341
02:13:27,750 --> 02:13:25,920
off on the exit

3342
02:13:29,910 --> 02:13:27,760
we got out of the car we ran around none

3343
02:13:30,550 --> 02:13:29,920
of them were open of course it's covid

3344
02:13:33,109 --> 02:13:30,560
but

3345
02:13:34,069 --> 02:13:33,119
they were just beautiful and we we call

3346
02:13:37,589 --> 02:13:34,079
it churching

3347
02:13:38,390 --> 02:13:37,599
now it's a blast we um we had to attend

3348
02:13:40,149 --> 02:13:38,400
a funeral

3349
02:13:42,149 --> 02:13:40,159
about three or four months ago at a

3350
02:13:44,790 --> 02:13:42,159
church that we hadn't been to

3351
02:13:47,109 --> 02:13:44,800
um i don't want to give away uh the

3352
02:13:50,310 --> 02:13:47,119
location of things but in burbank

3353
02:13:53,350 --> 02:13:50,320
and uh a smaller church and

3354
02:13:56,069 --> 02:13:53,360
so we go in and and i'm sitting

3355
02:13:58,069 --> 02:13:56,079
uh and i'm looking and i it was the

3356
02:14:01,669 --> 02:13:58,079
craziest art i have ever

3357
02:14:04,870 --> 02:14:01,679
seen inside the church i mean i was

3358
02:14:08,229 --> 02:14:04,880
i was blown away um now um scott

3359
02:14:12,229 --> 02:14:08,239
i can't let you get away

3360
02:14:15,030 --> 02:14:12,239
uh why okay i'm getting questions

3361
02:14:16,390 --> 02:14:15,040
coming in uh i'm happy to answer

3362
02:14:19,750 --> 02:14:16,400
questions if people ask questions

3363
02:14:20,709 --> 02:14:19,760
rita says armenian jesus has four nails

3364
02:14:22,790 --> 02:14:20,719
too

3365
02:14:24,310 --> 02:14:22,800
curious to hear scott's uh

3366
02:14:27,910 --> 02:14:24,320
interpretation

3367
02:14:28,470 --> 02:14:27,920
um uh why four nails now i just looked

3368
02:14:31,510 --> 02:14:28,480
this up

3369
02:14:36,149 --> 02:14:31,520
i didn't realize i think the pope

3370
02:14:42,149 --> 02:14:36,159
said uh one of the popes i should say

3371
02:14:45,350 --> 02:14:42,159
um said four nails three nails is heresy

3372
02:14:47,030 --> 02:14:45,360
um so or maybe i even read that wrong

3373
02:14:48,629 --> 02:14:47,040
man i'm gonna get in so much trouble

3374
02:14:51,430 --> 02:14:48,639
well you know what if i

3375
02:14:53,109 --> 02:14:51,440
i looked this up too and i got i it was

3376
02:14:57,030 --> 02:14:53,119
all over the map there is no

3377
02:14:59,510 --> 02:14:57,040
standard uh rule for three versus four

3378
02:15:01,109 --> 02:14:59,520
nails i've heard western orthodox versus

3379
02:15:04,310 --> 02:15:01,119
eastern orthodox

3380
02:15:06,149 --> 02:15:04,320
uh imagery i've heard you know medieval

3381
02:15:07,990 --> 02:15:06,159
times it was four nails then

3382
02:15:09,750 --> 02:15:08,000
the three nails started to creep in

3383
02:15:11,350 --> 02:15:09,760
moving forward

3384
02:15:13,109 --> 02:15:11,360
and so i don't know if there is a

3385
02:15:15,750 --> 02:15:13,119
standard rule um

3386
02:15:17,350 --> 02:15:15,760
there there there seems to be a mis

3387
02:15:19,990 --> 02:15:17,360
mixed message there

3388
02:15:21,589 --> 02:15:20,000
but four nails in this one for sure no

3389
02:15:22,229 --> 02:15:21,599
no question about it but most of the

3390
02:15:24,229 --> 02:15:22,239
time

3391
02:15:25,750 --> 02:15:24,239
when i'm paying attention i see three

3392
02:15:27,589 --> 02:15:25,760
nails okay here we go

3393
02:15:30,069 --> 02:15:27,599
though in the middle ages the

3394
02:15:33,350 --> 02:15:30,079
crucifixion of christ typically

3395
02:15:36,870 --> 02:15:33,360
uh depicted four nails beginning

3396
02:15:38,629 --> 02:15:36,880
in the 13th century some western art

3397
02:15:41,430 --> 02:15:38,639
began to represent christ

3398
02:15:42,550 --> 02:15:41,440
on the cross with one foot placed over

3399
02:15:45,910 --> 02:15:42,560
the other

3400
02:15:48,709 --> 02:15:45,920
and with a single nail

3401
02:15:49,350 --> 02:15:48,719
right all of that man i'm i'm telling

3402
02:15:51,510 --> 02:15:49,360
you

3403
02:15:52,790 --> 02:15:51,520
when when i'm at the pearly gates man

3404
02:15:54,950 --> 02:15:52,800
they're gonna go you and

3405
02:15:56,310 --> 02:15:54,960
you and walter one night you and walter

3406
02:15:58,390 --> 02:15:56,320
had that conversation

3407
02:15:59,830 --> 02:15:58,400
and you're both in trouble you guys i'm

3408
02:16:02,950 --> 02:15:59,840
just gonna say

3409
02:16:04,390 --> 02:16:02,960
jimmy you go first it was scott's fault

3410
02:16:04,870 --> 02:16:04,400
man i'm going to sell you out it was

3411
02:16:07,430 --> 02:16:04,880
scott's

3412
02:16:09,270 --> 02:16:07,440
no it was his show he invited me on i

3413
02:16:13,510 --> 02:16:09,280
protested but

3414
02:16:16,069 --> 02:16:13,520
i love you now getting back to ufos

3415
02:16:17,430 --> 02:16:16,079
but this combines this is another

3416
02:16:20,790 --> 02:16:17,440
synchronicity

3417
02:16:23,109 --> 02:16:20,800
scott walter is a huge

3418
02:16:24,069 --> 02:16:23,119
football fan he's also an athlete he

3419
02:16:26,310 --> 02:16:24,079
plays football

3420
02:16:27,990 --> 02:16:26,320
and yesterday there was a there was a

3421
02:16:31,350 --> 02:16:28,000
game there was a match

3422
02:16:33,030 --> 02:16:31,360
that was played right um uh yeah

3423
02:16:35,030 --> 02:16:33,040
yeah i think there was i think it was

3424
02:16:37,270 --> 02:16:35,040
two days ago but there was a game

3425
02:16:38,870 --> 02:16:37,280
it was two years ago it was it was a

3426
02:16:41,429 --> 02:16:38,880
great it was a great game

3427
02:16:43,030 --> 02:16:41,439
well it depends on depends on who you

3428
02:16:46,870 --> 02:16:43,040
were rooting for but

3429
02:16:49,110 --> 02:16:46,880
i got to tell you that uh that tom brady

3430
02:16:50,709 --> 02:16:49,120
you say what you want about him ten

3431
02:16:53,990 --> 02:16:50,719
super bowls

3432
02:16:54,950 --> 02:16:54,000
seven rings stop it yeah i know i know

3433
02:16:58,629 --> 02:16:54,960
look i'm a co

3434
02:17:00,230 --> 02:16:58,639
i'm a colts fan indianapolis and i know

3435
02:17:02,309 --> 02:17:00,240
what we went through with

3436
02:17:04,230 --> 02:17:02,319
the patriots every year uh with the

3437
02:17:07,349 --> 02:17:04,240
cults it seemed like every year

3438
02:17:10,389 --> 02:17:07,359
and and those matchups and things um

3439
02:17:11,429 --> 02:17:10,399
but to go now putting putting history

3440
02:17:14,309 --> 02:17:11,439
aside

3441
02:17:15,669 --> 02:17:14,319
and no matter who you root for and who

3442
02:17:19,429 --> 02:17:15,679
your team is

3443
02:17:23,750 --> 02:17:19,439
uh tom brady was about as impressive

3444
02:17:26,950 --> 02:17:23,760
uh as it gets in all of sports

3445
02:17:30,230 --> 02:17:26,960
that was that was absolutely incredible

3446
02:17:31,990 --> 02:17:30,240
incredible now well don't forget these

3447
02:17:32,950 --> 02:17:32,000
the guys on the other side are trying

3448
02:17:35,349 --> 02:17:32,960
hard too

3449
02:17:37,349 --> 02:17:35,359
but the defense for tampa bay they

3450
02:17:38,549 --> 02:17:37,359
should have got a collective mvp because

3451
02:17:40,549 --> 02:17:38,559
they were lights out

3452
02:17:42,629 --> 02:17:40,559
that pat mahomes is going to be in more

3453
02:17:44,870 --> 02:17:42,639
super bowls and even though he was

3454
02:17:46,629 --> 02:17:44,880
constantly being pressured

3455
02:17:50,070 --> 02:17:46,639
some of the throws he made when he was

3456
02:17:53,270 --> 02:17:52,150
that guy's a talent too i know i know

3457
02:17:59,830 --> 02:17:53,280
and

3458
02:18:03,349 --> 02:17:59,840
there was three or four uh

3459
02:18:06,549 --> 02:18:03,359
passes that he made in a very

3460
02:18:10,070 --> 02:18:06,559
uh uh uh uh insane

3461
02:18:14,549 --> 02:18:10,080
situation right he's getting chased down

3462
02:18:17,429 --> 02:18:14,559
and those were almost big-time plays

3463
02:18:18,870 --> 02:18:17,439
i mean kansas city was almost in the

3464
02:18:20,469 --> 02:18:18,880
game three or four times

3465
02:18:21,910 --> 02:18:20,479
okay but that's not what i want to talk

3466
02:18:22,549 --> 02:18:21,920
about that's not what i want to talk

3467
02:18:25,589 --> 02:18:22,559
about

3468
02:18:29,110 --> 02:18:25,599
commercials

3469
02:18:32,790 --> 02:18:29,120
did you notice e.t

3470
02:18:36,950 --> 02:18:32,800
alien invasion abduct what was

3471
02:18:39,589 --> 02:18:36,960
up with the ufo content in the ufo

3472
02:18:40,870 --> 02:18:39,599
in the super bowl uh commercials did you

3473
02:18:43,910 --> 02:18:40,880
catch all of that

3474
02:18:46,870 --> 02:18:43,920
uh i did um and

3475
02:18:48,870 --> 02:18:46,880
i have to believe um and i i don't know

3476
02:18:50,389 --> 02:18:48,880
but i'm gonna find out and i have a

3477
02:18:53,429 --> 02:18:50,399
source that'll tell me

3478
02:18:54,870 --> 02:18:53,439
but it makes you wonder if because we've

3479
02:18:57,509 --> 02:18:54,880
talked about this before

3480
02:18:59,110 --> 02:18:57,519
that the you know the the united states

3481
02:19:04,790 --> 02:18:59,120
government

3482
02:19:06,709 --> 02:19:04,800
are ready to come forward they've

3483
02:19:09,110 --> 02:19:06,719
already started coming forward

3484
02:19:09,910 --> 02:19:09,120
talking about you know the presence of

3485
02:19:12,070 --> 02:19:09,920
et's

3486
02:19:13,270 --> 02:19:12,080
and and they're they're coming forward

3487
02:19:16,709 --> 02:19:13,280
to the public

3488
02:19:20,629 --> 02:19:16,719
letting people know and you know

3489
02:19:22,070 --> 02:19:20,639
it's it's actually been i think a a very

3490
02:19:24,230 --> 02:19:22,080
successful

3491
02:19:26,629 --> 02:19:24,240
launch to begin with and i wouldn't

3492
02:19:29,349 --> 02:19:26,639
doubt it if there there are some

3493
02:19:30,870 --> 02:19:29,359
crossovers whether intentional or

3494
02:19:34,150 --> 02:19:30,880
perhaps

3495
02:19:36,389 --> 02:19:34,160
synchronicity that because

3496
02:19:37,750 --> 02:19:36,399
you know this is subject matter that is

3497
02:19:41,270 --> 02:19:37,760
is coming out there

3498
02:19:44,469 --> 02:19:41,280
it's more acceptable to the you know to

3499
02:19:45,669 --> 02:19:44,479
just in the mainstream and and not just

3500
02:19:47,669 --> 02:19:45,679
in the mainstream

3501
02:19:49,429 --> 02:19:47,679
you know at its highest level here i

3502
02:19:50,870 --> 02:19:49,439
mean the super bowl is

3503
02:19:53,510 --> 02:19:50,880
you know i don't know what it was this

3504
02:19:54,550 --> 02:19:53,520
year but it's typically the most watched

3505
02:19:56,950 --> 02:19:54,560
program

3506
02:19:58,630 --> 02:19:56,960
around the world and for them to have

3507
02:20:01,110 --> 02:19:58,640
that much content

3508
02:20:01,990 --> 02:20:01,120
means that first of all people are

3509
02:20:04,870 --> 02:20:02,000
receptive to

3510
02:20:06,950 --> 02:20:04,880
it and they enjoy seeing it i mean most

3511
02:20:08,389 --> 02:20:06,960
of the examples i saw it was done in a

3512
02:20:11,830 --> 02:20:08,399
humorous way

3513
02:20:13,429 --> 02:20:11,840
and you know it works i mean advertisers

3514
02:20:15,190 --> 02:20:13,439
aren't stupid

3515
02:20:16,950 --> 02:20:15,200
the reason they they pay the money for

3516
02:20:17,830 --> 02:20:16,960
their commercials is they want to sell

3517
02:20:19,270 --> 02:20:17,840
product

3518
02:20:20,710 --> 02:20:19,280
and they want to have something that

3519
02:20:22,389 --> 02:20:20,720
people that's going to connect with

3520
02:20:26,309 --> 02:20:22,399
people however they do that

3521
02:20:29,110 --> 02:20:26,319
and humor is one of the best ways so

3522
02:20:30,469 --> 02:20:29,120
maybe maybe there's maybe there's some

3523
02:20:32,790 --> 02:20:30,479
cooperation

3524
02:20:34,710 --> 02:20:32,800
with the government that that's this is

3525
02:20:36,870 --> 02:20:34,720
all part of disclosure

3526
02:20:37,910 --> 02:20:36,880
but make no mistake there's a business

3527
02:20:41,270 --> 02:20:37,920
aspect to this

3528
02:20:44,790 --> 02:20:41,280
but it seems to be working now uh there

3529
02:20:47,110 --> 02:20:44,800
is no question um uh

3530
02:20:48,550 --> 02:20:47,120
about what was happening yesterday

3531
02:20:48,950 --> 02:20:48,560
there's no question about it it was

3532
02:20:51,990 --> 02:20:48,960
there

3533
02:20:53,670 --> 02:20:52,000
i was i was what now i

3534
02:20:55,670 --> 02:20:53,680
couldn't take my eyes off of the

3535
02:20:58,950 --> 02:20:55,680
commercials which i enjoy anyway

3536
02:21:01,910 --> 02:20:58,960
we right we all do but i'm expecting

3537
02:21:04,389 --> 02:21:01,920
e.t to be in the next commercial any and

3538
02:21:06,790 --> 02:21:04,399
it was

3539
02:21:08,710 --> 02:21:06,800
what is going on at five million dollars

3540
02:21:11,830 --> 02:21:08,720
an ad and we all know

3541
02:21:13,429 --> 02:21:11,840
you know these uh extraordinarily high

3542
02:21:16,230 --> 02:21:13,439
advertising dollar

3543
02:21:18,309 --> 02:21:16,240
numbers tied to the super bowl this is

3544
02:21:21,910 --> 02:21:18,319
something we talk about every year

3545
02:21:22,469 --> 02:21:21,920
um so for a company to hire a marketing

3546
02:21:25,670 --> 02:21:22,479
company

3547
02:21:26,230 --> 02:21:25,680
to make sure that their investment is

3548
02:21:29,270 --> 02:21:26,240
money

3549
02:21:31,590 --> 02:21:29,280
well spent right yep well somebody there

3550
02:21:32,309 --> 02:21:31,600
is going yeah okay well we've got to get

3551
02:21:34,469 --> 02:21:32,319
uh

3552
02:21:35,910 --> 02:21:34,479
we got to get the little gray aliens in

3553
02:21:37,670 --> 02:21:35,920
there you know we've got to have the

3554
02:21:40,309 --> 02:21:37,680
alien invasion

3555
02:21:41,910 --> 02:21:40,319
well somebody's approving that it's on

3556
02:21:42,870 --> 02:21:41,920
the company side that's paying the

3557
02:21:45,429 --> 02:21:42,880
marketing

3558
02:21:46,710 --> 02:21:45,439
right then they have to develop the

3559
02:21:49,510 --> 02:21:46,720
campaign

3560
02:21:50,870 --> 02:21:49,520
uh shoot the commercial this is all done

3561
02:21:54,309 --> 02:21:50,880
with intent

3562
02:21:54,710 --> 02:21:54,319
and we had et all day long in the super

3563
02:21:57,030 --> 02:21:54,720
bowl

3564
02:21:59,190 --> 02:21:57,040
and and yeah it was uh it was

3565
02:21:59,590 --> 02:21:59,200
fascinating to me and i'm so happy that

3566
02:22:01,830 --> 02:21:59,600
you

3567
02:22:04,230 --> 02:22:01,840
caught it i wanted to make sure when i

3568
02:22:06,630 --> 02:22:04,240
spoke about this yesterday on the air

3569
02:22:08,630 --> 02:22:06,640
that i wasn't taking crazy pills i

3570
02:22:11,990 --> 02:22:08,640
wanted to know if everybody

3571
02:22:13,670 --> 02:22:12,000
else saw what i saw um

3572
02:22:15,110 --> 02:22:13,680
there was another interesting thing i

3573
02:22:16,790 --> 02:22:15,120
don't know if you caught it you were

3574
02:22:21,270 --> 02:22:16,800
chan

3575
02:22:24,150 --> 02:22:21,280
the reddit ad did you see that

3576
02:22:26,389 --> 02:22:24,160
uh well refresh my memory because there

3577
02:22:28,309 --> 02:22:26,399
was some distractions during the day

3578
02:22:29,590 --> 02:22:28,319
so i didn't catch everything no fair

3579
02:22:32,469 --> 02:22:29,600
enough okay

3580
02:22:33,349 --> 02:22:32,479
now um and you can go back and watch

3581
02:22:35,670 --> 02:22:33,359
this

3582
02:22:37,750 --> 02:22:35,680
um i can also post it up in twitter or

3583
02:22:41,190 --> 02:22:37,760
somebody else can post it in twitter

3584
02:22:44,630 --> 02:22:41,200
and and tag scott so he can see it

3585
02:22:47,830 --> 02:22:44,640
reddit ran an ad that was

3586
02:22:51,030 --> 02:22:47,840
five seconds long it was just an

3587
02:22:53,429 --> 02:22:51,040
image that flashed up on the screen

3588
02:22:55,670 --> 02:22:53,439
for five seconds and i'm wha i'm waiting

3589
02:22:56,309 --> 02:22:55,680
for the et stuff right so i'm watching

3590
02:22:59,750 --> 02:22:56,319
and then

3591
02:23:01,590 --> 02:22:59,760
this little blip with static pops up

3592
02:23:02,870 --> 02:23:01,600
and i thought oh that was a mistake

3593
02:23:05,429 --> 02:23:02,880
right it was an error they

3594
02:23:08,070 --> 02:23:05,439
you know whatever and then a couple of

3595
02:23:09,750 --> 02:23:08,080
minutes later i thought you know what

3596
02:23:12,469 --> 02:23:09,760
i need to go back and check that out

3597
02:23:14,150 --> 02:23:12,479
that looked like the emergency broadcast

3598
02:23:16,070 --> 02:23:14,160
system or something popped up

3599
02:23:18,309 --> 02:23:16,080
i'm not kidding scott that's what i

3600
02:23:21,830 --> 02:23:18,319
thought so i i

3601
02:23:24,230 --> 02:23:21,840
i i hit rewind i go back and there it is

3602
02:23:25,830 --> 02:23:24,240
and and i see it and it blips there was

3603
02:23:28,790 --> 02:23:25,840
static at the front and the back

3604
02:23:30,230 --> 02:23:28,800
intentional so then i rewind again and

3605
02:23:33,429 --> 02:23:30,240
then i freeze framed it

3606
02:23:36,150 --> 02:23:33,439
and it was a reddit ad but this

3607
02:23:36,550 --> 02:23:36,160
isn't the trippy part about it reddit

3608
02:23:39,030 --> 02:23:36,560
said

3609
02:23:40,309 --> 02:23:39,040
good you know you stopped you you you're

3610
02:23:43,590 --> 02:23:40,319
reading this

3611
02:23:46,389 --> 02:23:43,600
um okay it's uh it's up here now

3612
02:23:48,389 --> 02:23:46,399
thank you for that rita um and it says

3613
02:23:49,510 --> 02:23:48,399
wow this actually worked if you're

3614
02:23:52,469 --> 02:23:49,520
reading this

3615
02:23:52,870 --> 02:23:52,479
it means our bet paid off check this out

3616
02:23:55,510 --> 02:23:52,880
scott

3617
02:23:57,429 --> 02:23:55,520
it says big game spots are expensive so

3618
02:23:59,830 --> 02:23:57,439
we couldn't buy a full one but we were

3619
02:24:00,870 --> 02:23:59,840
inspired and decided to spend our entire

3620
02:24:03,910 --> 02:24:00,880
marketing budget

3621
02:24:06,070 --> 02:24:03,920
on five seconds of airtime one

3622
02:24:07,910 --> 02:24:06,080
thing we learned from our communities

3623
02:24:10,790 --> 02:24:07,920
last week is that underdogs can

3624
02:24:15,110 --> 02:24:10,800
accomplish just about anything but then

3625
02:24:17,510 --> 02:24:15,120
is this line it says who knows

3626
02:24:18,309 --> 02:24:17,520
maybe you'll be the reason finance

3627
02:24:21,590 --> 02:24:18,319
textbooks

3628
02:24:26,309 --> 02:24:21,600
will have to add a chapter on attendees

3629
02:24:30,150 --> 02:24:26,319
maybe you'll help our r the letter r

3630
02:24:34,469 --> 02:24:30,160
superb owl which is super bowl

3631
02:24:37,830 --> 02:24:34,479
right but it's actually two words superb

3632
02:24:40,830 --> 02:24:37,840
owl maybe you'll help our superb

3633
02:24:42,150 --> 02:24:40,840
owl teach the world about the majesty of

3634
02:24:44,790 --> 02:24:42,160
owls

3635
02:24:46,469 --> 02:24:44,800
this is the thing in the world of

3636
02:24:50,389 --> 02:24:46,479
ufology

3637
02:24:54,790 --> 02:24:50,399
of ufos and conspiracy

3638
02:24:55,429 --> 02:24:54,800
owls play a part owls are seen before

3639
02:24:58,950 --> 02:24:55,439
and after

3640
02:25:00,469 --> 02:24:58,960
contact with e.t uh ufos that are

3641
02:25:03,590 --> 02:25:00,479
sighted in the sky

3642
02:25:06,870 --> 02:25:03,600
the owl and this part of ufology

3643
02:25:11,429 --> 02:25:06,880
is there the owl so we have

3644
02:25:13,830 --> 02:25:11,439
all of this ufo et

3645
02:25:14,630 --> 02:25:13,840
you know super bowl ads right one after

3646
02:25:17,750 --> 02:25:14,640
another

3647
02:25:19,670 --> 02:25:17,760
and then there's this ad by reddit

3648
02:25:21,190 --> 02:25:19,680
tucked in there too as well and i was

3649
02:25:23,110 --> 02:25:21,200
just like man i feel like i'm taking

3650
02:25:25,750 --> 02:25:23,120
crazy pills

3651
02:25:26,230 --> 02:25:25,760
what is going on with this and and there

3652
02:25:32,740 --> 02:25:26,240
it is

3653
02:25:37,429 --> 02:25:33,830
[Music]

3654
02:25:39,750 --> 02:25:37,439
well i you know what um

3655
02:25:41,429 --> 02:25:39,760
that seems pretty high level for people

3656
02:25:44,630 --> 02:25:41,439
that are you know you're you're

3657
02:25:46,230 --> 02:25:44,640
in the know but that's how people learn

3658
02:25:47,750 --> 02:25:46,240
that's how they find out about these

3659
02:25:49,190 --> 02:25:47,760
things it's like what are they talking

3660
02:25:52,550 --> 02:25:49,200
about and they look it up

3661
02:25:54,790 --> 02:25:52,560
and what do they say about learning um

3662
02:25:56,230 --> 02:25:54,800
you'll remember it you'll retain it

3663
02:25:59,030 --> 02:25:56,240
you'll know it better

3664
02:26:00,230 --> 02:25:59,040
if you if you do it yourself if you

3665
02:26:03,510 --> 02:26:00,240
research it yourself

3666
02:26:04,309 --> 02:26:03,520
right yeah go back and uh you're tagged

3667
02:26:07,750 --> 02:26:04,319
in this

3668
02:26:08,309 --> 02:26:07,760
okay all right um there it is you can

3669
02:26:10,630 --> 02:26:08,319
see

3670
02:26:12,469 --> 02:26:10,640
the reddit ad for yourself you can go

3671
02:26:15,110 --> 02:26:12,479
and read how they have our

3672
02:26:16,710 --> 02:26:15,120
superb owl teach you about the world of

3673
02:26:20,469 --> 02:26:16,720
the majesty of owls

3674
02:26:23,510 --> 02:26:20,479
um this is a five second ad and so for

3675
02:26:26,630 --> 02:26:23,520
them to go and and and do this

3676
02:26:28,389 --> 02:26:26,640
it's all it's all done by intention

3677
02:26:31,270 --> 02:26:28,399
you know and so you would have to go

3678
02:26:34,550 --> 02:26:31,280
back rewind freeze frame

3679
02:26:37,349 --> 02:26:34,560
read this and then there's the message

3680
02:26:38,469 --> 02:26:37,359
it's it's bizarre man i'm telling you

3681
02:26:40,150 --> 02:26:38,479
scott well

3682
02:26:41,590 --> 02:26:40,160
you're not obviously work because here

3683
02:26:43,750 --> 02:26:41,600
you are talking about it

3684
02:26:44,870 --> 02:26:43,760
and i'm sure a lot of other people are

3685
02:26:48,230 --> 02:26:44,880
too

3686
02:26:51,830 --> 02:26:48,240
it's uh it's so cool it's so cool the r

3687
02:26:55,510 --> 02:26:51,840
in the url is the root of all reddit

3688
02:26:59,270 --> 02:26:55,520
superb owl is a subreddit that means

3689
02:27:00,389 --> 02:26:59,280
a topic i get that ipd that's not what

3690
02:27:06,230 --> 02:27:00,399
i'm saying

3691
02:27:08,230 --> 02:27:06,240
in the middle of all of this other ufo

3692
02:27:11,030 --> 02:27:08,240
stuff come on ipd

3693
02:27:13,110 --> 02:27:11,040
this is a this is one of our local uh

3694
02:27:14,630 --> 02:27:13,120
fade or not computer experts

3695
02:27:16,469 --> 02:27:14,640
that that knows everything about

3696
02:27:19,510 --> 02:27:16,479
everything about the internet

3697
02:27:22,710 --> 02:27:19,520
um so he's just showing off

3698
02:27:23,910 --> 02:27:22,720
right now talking about how to keep your

3699
02:27:26,469 --> 02:27:23,920
guys in line there

3700
02:27:27,270 --> 02:27:26,479
talk about a buzzkill right trying to be

3701
02:27:31,270 --> 02:27:27,280
a buzzkill

3702
02:27:32,230 --> 02:27:31,280
posted and i don't know if you're tagged

3703
02:27:35,750 --> 02:27:32,240
in this

3704
02:27:39,510 --> 02:27:35,760
but uh drewber in your uh painting

3705
02:27:41,830 --> 02:27:39,520
that was posted has got a ufo

3706
02:27:43,510 --> 02:27:41,840
sighting here in this and it's on the

3707
02:27:46,950 --> 02:27:43,520
left hand side

3708
02:27:49,990 --> 02:27:46,960
uh left-hand side uh between the cross

3709
02:27:52,630 --> 02:27:50,000
and the the panel to the left

3710
02:27:54,070 --> 02:27:52,640
and it's circled uh you'll have to check

3711
02:27:54,950 --> 02:27:54,080
this out it's pretty interesting it

3712
02:27:57,990 --> 02:27:54,960
looks like there's an

3713
02:28:01,750 --> 02:27:58,000
object yeah uh it's i'm gonna

3714
02:28:02,630 --> 02:28:01,760
blow this up and and see if i can catch

3715
02:28:04,550 --> 02:28:02,640
it

3716
02:28:06,469 --> 02:28:04,560
um let me see here let me see let me see

3717
02:28:09,190 --> 02:28:06,479
if i can enlarge this

3718
02:28:10,870 --> 02:28:09,200
if it's on the panel to the left if it

3719
02:28:12,469 --> 02:28:10,880
is it in the main panel that we've been

3720
02:28:15,990 --> 02:28:12,479
talking about yeah go

3721
02:28:19,110 --> 02:28:16,000
um what you need to do scott is go

3722
02:28:20,710 --> 02:28:19,120
uh to twitter and and check it out and

3723
02:28:22,469 --> 02:28:20,720
then you'll be able to look at your high

3724
02:28:24,389 --> 02:28:22,479
res image i'm gonna do that i'm gonna

3725
02:28:26,630 --> 02:28:24,399
blow up your image

3726
02:28:28,790 --> 02:28:26,640
um and and see if i can check it out you

3727
02:28:30,150 --> 02:28:28,800
know what hold on for a second

3728
02:28:31,990 --> 02:28:30,160
i'm gonna do this we're at the end of

3729
02:28:35,429 --> 02:28:32,000
the show so let

3730
02:28:37,110 --> 02:28:35,439
me do oh i can't okay

3731
02:28:38,790 --> 02:28:37,120
i can't do it in real time i was gonna

3732
02:28:40,870 --> 02:28:38,800
bust it out in real time

3733
02:28:42,550 --> 02:28:40,880
scott what's up next for you what are

3734
02:28:44,150 --> 02:28:42,560
you working on we didn't even get a

3735
02:28:45,830 --> 02:28:44,160
chance you want to stay you want to stay

3736
02:28:48,389 --> 02:28:45,840
for some overtime

3737
02:28:49,750 --> 02:28:48,399
yeah i mean i i'm we're on a roll here

3738
02:28:54,230 --> 02:28:49,760
do you mind if i get a beer

3739
02:28:57,270 --> 02:28:54,240
uh get a beer because i'm thirsty

3740
02:29:00,070 --> 02:28:57,280
get your man a beer um is

3741
02:29:00,710 --> 02:29:00,080
is when we come back you were on your

3742
02:29:04,550 --> 02:29:00,720
way

3743
02:29:06,630 --> 02:29:04,560
to a road trip in florida

3744
02:29:08,150 --> 02:29:06,640
so the last time no we went not to

3745
02:29:11,590 --> 02:29:08,160
florida to south carolina

3746
02:29:12,150 --> 02:29:11,600
oh south carolina okay so keep that in

3747
02:29:13,590 --> 02:29:12,160
mind

3748
02:29:15,510 --> 02:29:13,600
that's what we're going to talk about

3749
02:29:17,110 --> 02:29:15,520
when we come back this is fade to black

3750
02:29:20,150 --> 02:29:17,120
scott go get your beer

3751
02:29:22,469 --> 02:29:20,160
i am your host jimmy

3752
02:29:23,670 --> 02:29:22,479
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3753
02:29:25,910 --> 02:29:23,680
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3754
02:29:27,270 --> 02:29:25,920
during overtime with fade to block i'm

3755
02:29:30,070 --> 02:29:27,280
your host jimmy church and the game

3756
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3757
02:29:33,590 --> 02:29:32,000
over time with scott walter when we come

3758
02:29:36,370 --> 02:29:33,600
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3759
02:29:59,510 --> 02:29:36,380
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3760
02:30:04,790 --> 02:30:01,910
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3842
02:33:40,230 --> 02:33:36,960
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3843
02:33:44,469 --> 02:33:43,190
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3844
02:33:47,910 --> 02:33:44,479
scott in just a second

3845
02:33:48,710 --> 02:33:47,920
uh tomorrow night giorgio soucalos

3846
02:33:51,750 --> 02:33:48,720
continuing

3847
02:33:53,190 --> 02:33:51,760
tv week of ancient aliens joins us and

3848
02:33:55,270 --> 02:33:53,200
dave schrader

3849
02:33:57,429 --> 02:33:55,280
of the holzer files right now we're

3850
02:34:00,469 --> 02:33:57,439
going into overtime with scott walter

3851
02:34:03,670 --> 02:34:00,479
and uh scott did you get your beer i

3852
02:34:08,230 --> 02:34:03,680
did actually janet made me a pre-mixed

3853
02:34:12,469 --> 02:34:10,469
but anyway we're all good to go and by

3854
02:34:14,870 --> 02:34:12,479
the way i know you're gonna say hi to

3855
02:34:16,630 --> 02:34:14,880
giorgio for me but uh i just talked to

3856
02:34:18,150 --> 02:34:16,640
dave yesterday so you don't need to say

3857
02:34:21,510 --> 02:34:18,160
hi but uh

3858
02:34:24,389 --> 02:34:21,520
hold on give him a rib yeah you are

3859
02:34:26,150 --> 02:34:24,399
uh coming up in an episode of the holzer

3860
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files i know we can't give away

3861
02:34:32,550 --> 02:34:29,200
too much about that uh

3862
02:34:34,309 --> 02:34:32,560
but i don't know uh

3863
02:34:35,670 --> 02:34:34,319
you know dave's probably listening right

3864
02:34:38,870 --> 02:34:35,680
now i'm going to get the text

3865
02:34:41,190 --> 02:34:38,880
church pump the brakes pump the brakes

3866
02:34:43,590 --> 02:34:41,200
yeah but he wants us to talk about it

3867
02:34:45,670 --> 02:34:43,600
and i don't i don't think

3868
02:34:46,710 --> 02:34:45,680
dave would be you know i think he wants

3869
02:34:49,110 --> 02:34:46,720
us to say something

3870
02:34:51,110 --> 02:34:49,120
and when's it going i can't tell you

3871
02:34:51,750 --> 02:34:51,120
that we we can talk about the site that

3872
02:34:54,630 --> 02:34:51,760
he's at

3873
02:34:56,630 --> 02:34:54,640
um sure and and you know he's out at

3874
02:34:58,070 --> 02:34:56,640
america stonehenge which is a place

3875
02:35:00,230 --> 02:34:58,080
where we filmed

3876
02:35:01,590 --> 02:35:00,240
uh one of the most i think it might have

3877
02:35:04,550 --> 02:35:01,600
been the most viewed

3878
02:35:05,670 --> 02:35:04,560
episode of america on earth the the you

3879
02:35:09,110 --> 02:35:05,680
know the

3880
02:35:11,990 --> 02:35:09,120
the episode we filmed out there

3881
02:35:12,950 --> 02:35:12,000
in new hampshire and and dennis stone

3882
02:35:14,550 --> 02:35:12,960
who uh

3883
02:35:15,750 --> 02:35:14,560
you know owns the property his dad was

3884
02:35:17,110 --> 02:35:15,760
the one that bought that property i

3885
02:35:19,429 --> 02:35:17,120
think back in the 50s

3886
02:35:21,510 --> 02:35:19,439
yeah and is just you know he's a

3887
02:35:22,389 --> 02:35:21,520
wonderful guy he's a wonderful host very

3888
02:35:24,630 --> 02:35:22,399
knowledgeable

3889
02:35:25,990 --> 02:35:24,640
at the the place there but we're talking

3890
02:35:29,030 --> 02:35:26,000
about an ancient site

3891
02:35:32,389 --> 02:35:29,040
that i'm convinced goes back at least

3892
02:35:33,429 --> 02:35:32,399
3 500 years pos possibly the phoenicians

3893
02:35:36,070 --> 02:35:33,439
built it

3894
02:35:37,110 --> 02:35:36,080
um you know that's one possibility we

3895
02:35:39,670 --> 02:35:37,120
just don't know

3896
02:35:41,270 --> 02:35:39,680
and it's been completely ignored or

3897
02:35:44,230 --> 02:35:41,280
virtually ignored by

3898
02:35:46,389 --> 02:35:44,240
you know modern academics and it's just

3899
02:35:48,710 --> 02:35:46,399
an incredible site and

3900
02:35:50,950 --> 02:35:48,720
you know far from being a paranormal

3901
02:35:54,389 --> 02:35:50,960
expert but i will tell you this

3902
02:35:55,510 --> 02:35:54,399
if there's any place that has had human

3903
02:35:58,230 --> 02:35:55,520
activity

3904
02:35:59,030 --> 02:35:58,240
rituals performed who knows what else

3905
02:36:01,190 --> 02:35:59,040
going back

3906
02:36:02,389 --> 02:36:01,200
at least thirty five hundred years it's

3907
02:36:05,190 --> 02:36:02,399
that place

3908
02:36:06,790 --> 02:36:05,200
and you know and to be honest with you

3909
02:36:07,750 --> 02:36:06,800
dave didn't tell me anything about the

3910
02:36:09,830 --> 02:36:07,760
episode

3911
02:36:11,670 --> 02:36:09,840
he just asked me to come on as a guest

3912
02:36:12,389 --> 02:36:11,680
he wanted to ask me some questions about

3913
02:36:14,070 --> 02:36:12,399
the place

3914
02:36:15,510 --> 02:36:14,080
because i've been there many times i

3915
02:36:17,750 --> 02:36:15,520
know a lot about it

3916
02:36:19,190 --> 02:36:17,760
uh certainly geologically it's a very

3917
02:36:22,070 --> 02:36:19,200
interesting place

3918
02:36:23,910 --> 02:36:22,080
a very unique place and and it's an

3919
02:36:26,150 --> 02:36:23,920
observatory

3920
02:36:26,950 --> 02:36:26,160
that ancient people definitely

3921
02:36:29,590 --> 02:36:26,960
constructed

3922
02:36:30,150 --> 02:36:29,600
a long time ago and who knows what's

3923
02:36:33,349 --> 02:36:30,160
happened

3924
02:36:34,550 --> 02:36:33,359
over the uh the millennia there and uh

3925
02:36:36,070 --> 02:36:34,560
you'll you'll see what

3926
02:36:37,750 --> 02:36:36,080
see what they found when you watch the

3927
02:36:39,910 --> 02:36:37,760
episode i will say

3928
02:36:42,309 --> 02:36:39,920
the interview that dave and i had was

3929
02:36:44,230 --> 02:36:42,319
awesome he's so fun to work with

3930
02:36:46,469 --> 02:36:44,240
we've known each other a long time but

3931
02:36:47,670 --> 02:36:46,479
we really were we were on that day i

3932
02:36:50,309 --> 02:36:47,680
will say that

3933
02:36:52,550 --> 02:36:50,319
you guys own minnesota you kirby puckett

3934
02:36:56,070 --> 02:36:52,560
and fran tarkington

3935
02:36:59,429 --> 02:36:56,080
so um uh but how great is it

3936
02:37:02,790 --> 02:36:59,439
uh not only to to be on the holzer files

3937
02:37:03,349 --> 02:37:02,800
but but with dave he's so dynamic and he

3938
02:37:06,230 --> 02:37:03,359
knows

3939
02:37:08,309 --> 02:37:06,240
so much uh do you learn do you guys

3940
02:37:09,990 --> 02:37:08,319
teach each other stuff

3941
02:37:11,910 --> 02:37:10,000
well i'm not sure if i teach him

3942
02:37:15,510 --> 02:37:11,920
anything but he sure teaches me things

3943
02:37:17,429 --> 02:37:15,520
right right because you know as we

3944
02:37:19,590 --> 02:37:17,439
we've said this before this is new for

3945
02:37:22,870 --> 02:37:19,600
me i'm i'm venturing into

3946
02:37:25,990 --> 02:37:22,880
a a new world here with the paranormal

3947
02:37:28,870 --> 02:37:26,000
and the ufo uh topics

3948
02:37:29,349 --> 02:37:28,880
and and it's fun and but it's new for me

3949
02:37:31,990 --> 02:37:29,359
and i

3950
02:37:32,950 --> 02:37:32,000
i i'm nowhere near an expert i'm a quick

3951
02:37:36,070 --> 02:37:32,960
study

3952
02:37:39,910 --> 02:37:36,080
i like to think but you know dave

3953
02:37:41,910 --> 02:37:39,920
davis is helped me a lot with that and

3954
02:37:43,830 --> 02:37:41,920
you know we we go back a long time when

3955
02:37:45,590 --> 02:37:43,840
i first started working on the runestone

3956
02:37:47,910 --> 02:37:45,600
back in 2000

3957
02:37:49,830 --> 02:37:47,920
and we started making noise with that

3958
02:37:50,550 --> 02:37:49,840
long before any of the television stuff

3959
02:37:52,870 --> 02:37:50,560
came

3960
02:37:54,870 --> 02:37:52,880
dave had me on his show and gave me a

3961
02:37:56,469 --> 02:37:54,880
platform to talk about that

3962
02:37:58,309 --> 02:37:56,479
because it it sounded like we were

3963
02:38:00,070 --> 02:37:58,319
making headway and

3964
02:38:02,230 --> 02:38:00,080
you know his studio was right there in

3965
02:38:04,469 --> 02:38:02,240
minnesota and there were times when

3966
02:38:05,270 --> 02:38:04,479
guests would cancel and he would say hey

3967
02:38:07,270 --> 02:38:05,280
you want to come

3968
02:38:08,630 --> 02:38:07,280
come on the show and i'd jump in a car

3969
02:38:11,510 --> 02:38:08,640
and i'd go to the studio

3970
02:38:13,990 --> 02:38:11,520
and we'd we'd get after it so he's been

3971
02:38:16,630 --> 02:38:14,000
a good friend for a long time and

3972
02:38:17,910 --> 02:38:16,640
uh you know he asked for some help with

3973
02:38:19,910 --> 02:38:17,920
with his episode

3974
02:38:21,030 --> 02:38:19,920
i'm like i'm there man just say when and

3975
02:38:22,550 --> 02:38:21,040
where let's do it

3976
02:38:24,309 --> 02:38:22,560
we had a great time and i think it's

3977
02:38:27,349 --> 02:38:24,319
going to be a really good episode

3978
02:38:30,070 --> 02:38:27,359
he deserves all of the success uh that

3979
02:38:31,990 --> 02:38:30,080
uh he is enjoying right now he's been at

3980
02:38:33,510 --> 02:38:32,000
this for a very long time

3981
02:38:35,030 --> 02:38:33,520
you know we hosted coast to coast

3982
02:38:38,550 --> 02:38:35,040
together for for

3983
02:38:42,070 --> 02:38:38,560
over six years and uh he's just

3984
02:38:45,110 --> 02:38:42,080
an extreme talent and just a nice guy

3985
02:38:51,030 --> 02:38:45,120
and any anybody that has uh

3986
02:38:54,150 --> 02:38:53,110
to me and he looks after each one of

3987
02:38:57,510 --> 02:38:54,160
them he's

3988
02:39:01,030 --> 02:38:57,520
he's a loving guy and uh you know he's

3989
02:39:02,550 --> 02:39:01,040
he's i i he's just down to earth

3990
02:39:04,710 --> 02:39:02,560
and i think that's part of the reason

3991
02:39:06,469 --> 02:39:04,720
why he's so successful on television

3992
02:39:08,710 --> 02:39:06,479
because people can feel that they can

3993
02:39:11,590 --> 02:39:08,720
see that when they watch him on the show

3994
02:39:13,349 --> 02:39:11,600
when you interview people um and i know

3995
02:39:16,230 --> 02:39:13,359
this because i do the same thing

3996
02:39:18,230 --> 02:39:16,240
you know the people that you interview

3997
02:39:20,630 --> 02:39:18,240
and especially in the world that he's

3998
02:39:22,870 --> 02:39:20,640
involved in with this paranormal stuff

3999
02:39:24,550 --> 02:39:22,880
it's very emotional it's it's something

4000
02:39:27,030 --> 02:39:24,560
that's that is

4001
02:39:27,670 --> 02:39:27,040
very personal to these people and hits

4002
02:39:30,389 --> 02:39:27,680
them in a

4003
02:39:31,990 --> 02:39:30,399
deep place and the last thing they want

4004
02:39:35,510 --> 02:39:32,000
is somebody who's quick

4005
02:39:38,630 --> 02:39:35,520
dismissive and and doesn't have empathy

4006
02:39:39,910 --> 02:39:38,640
dave has empathy he he feels what these

4007
02:39:42,389 --> 02:39:39,920
people feel

4008
02:39:44,550 --> 02:39:42,399
and and that has got to be and i'm not

4009
02:39:47,750 --> 02:39:44,560
an expert i'm just this i'm just

4010
02:39:49,510 --> 02:39:47,760
winging it here but for for him and the

4011
02:39:50,950 --> 02:39:49,520
people he works with to have the kind of

4012
02:39:54,070 --> 02:39:50,960
success they do

4013
02:39:54,389 --> 02:39:54,080
with the these energies these whatever

4014
02:39:58,630 --> 02:39:54,399
that

4015
02:40:01,429 --> 02:39:58,640
just show up for anybody they

4016
02:40:02,469 --> 02:40:01,439
they show up for people that are sincere

4017
02:40:04,790 --> 02:40:02,479
and genuine

4018
02:40:05,670 --> 02:40:04,800
and trying to get to the bottom of

4019
02:40:07,750 --> 02:40:05,680
whatever this

4020
02:40:09,510 --> 02:40:07,760
mystery is and a lot of times it

4021
02:40:13,429 --> 02:40:09,520
involves something very tragic

4022
02:40:15,269 --> 02:40:13,439
very personal um and you need to take it

4023
02:40:16,550 --> 02:40:15,279
seriously and he does that he does a

4024
02:40:18,309 --> 02:40:16,560
great job with that

4025
02:40:20,469 --> 02:40:18,319
that's why he has so much success it's

4026
02:40:23,510 --> 02:40:20,479
not it's not magic no no

4027
02:40:25,190 --> 02:40:23,520
you know um uh we're gonna run out of

4028
02:40:26,630 --> 02:40:25,200
time but i'm gonna say one last thing

4029
02:40:29,750 --> 02:40:26,640
about dave schrader

4030
02:40:36,469 --> 02:40:29,760
if you're camping he's the guy

4031
02:40:39,910 --> 02:40:38,790
this summer nobody tells a story like

4032
02:40:41,990 --> 02:40:39,920
dave schrader

4033
02:40:43,030 --> 02:40:42,000
all right um so the last time you were

4034
02:40:45,910 --> 02:40:43,040
on the show

4035
02:40:46,790 --> 02:40:45,920
uh you guys were actually on the road

4036
02:40:49,670 --> 02:40:46,800
and

4037
02:40:51,030 --> 02:40:49,680
you were uh uh you were staying at a

4038
02:40:52,070 --> 02:40:51,040
hotel you were in the middle of your

4039
02:40:53,990 --> 02:40:52,080
road trip and

4040
02:40:56,150 --> 02:40:54,000
uh you came on fade to black and said

4041
02:40:59,590 --> 02:40:56,160
okay we're heading down

4042
02:41:01,510 --> 02:40:59,600
i'll give you a full report later okay

4043
02:41:03,830 --> 02:41:01,520
now that was the time we went to north

4044
02:41:05,910 --> 02:41:03,840
carolina oh

4045
02:41:08,309 --> 02:41:05,920
because we've been to south carolina

4046
02:41:10,550 --> 02:41:08,319
since you're talking about

4047
02:41:12,550 --> 02:41:10,560
when we went to north carolina on the

4048
02:41:13,429 --> 02:41:12,560
treasure on the treasure hunt so what

4049
02:41:16,950 --> 02:41:13,439
happened yes

4050
02:41:19,990 --> 02:41:16,960
what happened oh boy i it's going to be

4051
02:41:20,790 --> 02:41:20,000
that this is um you know we we're we're

4052
02:41:23,830 --> 02:41:20,800
going to hold

4053
02:41:24,870 --> 02:41:23,840
tight to all the details but let's put

4054
02:41:27,990 --> 02:41:24,880
it this way

4055
02:41:30,070 --> 02:41:28,000
um obviously i've been working for years

4056
02:41:31,990 --> 02:41:30,080
on templars in america

4057
02:41:34,309 --> 02:41:32,000
and the whole idea that the templars

4058
02:41:36,389 --> 02:41:34,319
brought treasures over to north america

4059
02:41:38,150 --> 02:41:36,399
during medieval times that would

4060
02:41:39,429 --> 02:41:38,160
eventually be used to fund the

4061
02:41:42,870 --> 02:41:39,439
revolution

4062
02:41:44,469 --> 02:41:42,880
and you know various things that were

4063
02:41:47,269 --> 02:41:44,479
associated with that

4064
02:41:49,269 --> 02:41:47,279
well along with these documents that

4065
02:41:52,469 --> 02:41:49,279
came forward to flesh out this story

4066
02:41:53,830 --> 02:41:52,479
in in detail were maps

4067
02:41:55,990 --> 02:41:53,840
where some of these treasures are

4068
02:41:56,550 --> 02:41:56,000
located and i hate to break it to you

4069
02:41:59,990 --> 02:41:56,560
but they're

4070
02:42:00,389 --> 02:42:00,000
not on oak island they're all around it

4071
02:42:03,830 --> 02:42:00,399
but

4072
02:42:05,510 --> 02:42:03,840
down

4073
02:42:07,910 --> 02:42:05,520
in what are now the the continental

4074
02:42:10,950 --> 02:42:07,920
united states on the eastern seaboard

4075
02:42:13,990 --> 02:42:10,960
one of them on this particular map

4076
02:42:16,550 --> 02:42:14,000
was in north carolina on an island

4077
02:42:17,990 --> 02:42:16,560
in a river and i can't tell you the

4078
02:42:20,389 --> 02:42:18,000
exact location

4079
02:42:21,750 --> 02:42:20,399
but the information that we got

4080
02:42:25,190 --> 02:42:21,760
literally had

4081
02:42:28,469 --> 02:42:25,200
x marks the spot from an aerial

4082
02:42:31,269 --> 02:42:28,479
photograph taken in the 1990s

4083
02:42:32,630 --> 02:42:31,279
on one of these islands and we went

4084
02:42:35,990 --> 02:42:32,640
there

4085
02:42:38,070 --> 02:42:36,000
and all i'll tell you is

4086
02:42:39,349 --> 02:42:38,080
the goddess made the big discovery it

4087
02:42:42,630 --> 02:42:39,359
was janet

4088
02:42:45,590 --> 02:42:42,640
and was it

4089
02:42:45,990 --> 02:42:45,600
treasure the answer is yes okay get get

4090
02:42:49,030 --> 02:42:46,000
okay

4091
02:42:51,269 --> 02:42:49,040
that's all i'm gonna say no no get janet

4092
02:42:54,550 --> 02:42:51,279
on the phone hand the phone

4093
02:42:57,590 --> 02:42:54,560
get janet on the phone yes jimmy

4094
02:42:59,510 --> 02:42:57,600
hi jan uh this is your this is your

4095
02:43:02,630 --> 02:42:59,520
favorite radio host

4096
02:43:03,590 --> 02:43:02,640
that is that's gonna get all the secret

4097
02:43:06,469 --> 02:43:03,600
information out

4098
02:43:08,150 --> 02:43:06,479
of you because scott okay i'm not gonna

4099
02:43:11,269 --> 02:43:08,160
work on me now

4100
02:43:13,990 --> 02:43:11,279
jan uh what so what what happened and

4101
02:43:16,469 --> 02:43:14,000
how did you make the discovery

4102
02:43:18,469 --> 02:43:16,479
well like scott said we had this big x

4103
02:43:19,030 --> 02:43:18,479
marks the spot so we had to go check it

4104
02:43:22,469 --> 02:43:19,040
out

4105
02:43:25,429 --> 02:43:22,479
and we did a little

4106
02:43:26,309 --> 02:43:25,439
digging we did a little metal detecting

4107
02:43:29,830 --> 02:43:26,319
and

4108
02:43:31,990 --> 02:43:29,840
tell you tim how far

4109
02:43:33,429 --> 02:43:32,000
how how far down did you guys have to

4110
02:43:36,469 --> 02:43:33,439
dig

4111
02:43:39,030 --> 02:43:36,479
oh it was probably

4112
02:43:40,790 --> 02:43:39,040
a couple feet couple feet did was

4113
02:43:44,070 --> 02:43:40,800
anybody there did anybody

4114
02:43:46,469 --> 02:43:44,080
see you do this or were you guys alone

4115
02:43:48,070 --> 02:43:46,479
we were there with other people yes okay

4116
02:43:51,590 --> 02:43:48,080
um

4117
02:43:53,269 --> 02:43:51,600
but you weren't breaking the law no we

4118
02:43:55,510 --> 02:43:53,279
were there with the owners of the

4119
02:43:58,710 --> 02:43:55,520
property oh oh so you had free

4120
02:44:02,070 --> 02:43:58,720
you had free reign okay so you could

4121
02:44:04,950 --> 02:44:02,080
dig um uh was it was it

4122
02:44:06,790 --> 02:44:04,960
was it a chest was it a box what was it

4123
02:44:10,630 --> 02:44:06,800
that was on earth

4124
02:44:11,200 --> 02:44:10,640
it it was something man-made

4125
02:44:15,030 --> 02:44:11,210
something

4126
02:44:18,790 --> 02:44:17,349
but jen um was it bigger than a bread

4127
02:44:21,830 --> 02:44:18,800
box

4128
02:44:27,590 --> 02:44:25,190
something was yes okay and you said you

4129
02:44:30,230 --> 02:44:27,600
had metal detectors

4130
02:44:32,309 --> 02:44:30,240
uh yes did you find the object with

4131
02:44:35,670 --> 02:44:32,319
metal detectors

4132
02:44:39,110 --> 02:44:35,680
yes so it was made of metal gray

4133
02:44:42,550 --> 02:44:39,120
what what kind of metal i

4134
02:44:45,830 --> 02:44:42,560
can't say you can't say

4135
02:44:46,550 --> 02:44:45,840
because you don't know no i can't say

4136
02:44:49,670 --> 02:44:46,560
because

4137
02:44:53,349 --> 02:44:49,680
we want to do this

4138
02:44:55,670 --> 02:44:53,359
in a certain way okay did it look like

4139
02:44:56,710 --> 02:44:55,680
waiting we're holding on to this did it

4140
02:45:00,550 --> 02:44:56,720
at the right time

4141
02:45:01,510 --> 02:45:00,560
was it man-made from the 1970s or was it

4142
02:45:04,950 --> 02:45:01,520
man-made

4143
02:45:08,230 --> 02:45:04,960
like it was not the 1970s it was before

4144
02:45:12,830 --> 02:45:08,240
1970 yes do you

4145
02:45:15,910 --> 02:45:12,840
think that it was uh

4146
02:45:19,190 --> 02:45:15,920
pre-columbus um

4147
02:45:23,510 --> 02:45:19,200
i think it was wow

4148
02:45:26,790 --> 02:45:23,520
okay so i didn't say that

4149
02:45:30,550 --> 02:45:26,800
but um was it what it was it

4150
02:45:33,590 --> 02:45:30,560
was was it jewelry or was it

4151
02:45:39,269 --> 02:45:36,710
i'm not i'm not going there jim

4152
02:45:39,830 --> 02:45:39,279
i wasn't going there yet so it was can't

4153
02:45:42,309 --> 02:45:39,840
go there

4154
02:45:43,200 --> 02:45:42,319
it was jewelry that could be used as a

4155
02:45:45,510 --> 02:45:43,210
tool

4156
02:45:48,710 --> 02:45:45,520
[Laughter]

4157
02:45:50,950 --> 02:45:48,720
jewelry used as a tool now how okay

4158
02:45:52,230 --> 02:45:50,960
okay enough for the pressing but how did

4159
02:45:58,230 --> 02:45:52,240
you

4160
02:46:01,349 --> 02:45:58,240
detector

4161
02:46:03,590 --> 02:46:01,359
i was oh how cool is that

4162
02:46:05,830 --> 02:46:03,600
it was fun okay it's really fun i have

4163
02:46:09,349 --> 02:46:05,840
to tell you i will say one thing just

4164
02:46:10,950 --> 02:46:09,359
just to build a little excitement here

4165
02:46:12,790 --> 02:46:10,960
it was one of the most fun days i've

4166
02:46:15,830 --> 02:46:12,800
ever had in my life

4167
02:46:17,510 --> 02:46:15,840
you know right it was so much fun

4168
02:46:19,750 --> 02:46:17,520
and it was fun because the people we

4169
02:46:24,070 --> 02:46:19,760
were with were awesome

4170
02:46:28,070 --> 02:46:24,080
and we we just it was a great

4171
02:46:31,429 --> 02:46:28,080
day where where is that where is the

4172
02:46:33,670 --> 02:46:31,439
object now uh

4173
02:46:34,550 --> 02:46:33,680
with the landowners with the landowner

4174
02:46:36,630 --> 02:46:34,560
what are they doing

4175
02:46:38,469 --> 02:46:36,640
are they having it analyzed or is

4176
02:46:42,230 --> 02:46:38,479
somebody looking at it

4177
02:46:45,429 --> 02:46:42,240
uh perhaps i i don't know for sure

4178
02:46:48,070 --> 02:46:45,439
yeah i think so and um uh

4179
02:46:50,070 --> 02:46:48,080
okay all right you know jan i i feel i

4180
02:46:53,349 --> 02:46:50,080
feel a little bit of guilt

4181
02:46:55,429 --> 02:46:53,359
uh for putting the pressure on you but

4182
02:46:56,710 --> 02:46:55,439
you know just thank you for that let me

4183
02:46:58,630 --> 02:46:56,720
talk to scott

4184
02:47:01,510 --> 02:46:58,640
and i'll talk to you later thank you

4185
02:47:02,950 --> 02:47:01,520
okay thanks jim

4186
02:47:04,790 --> 02:47:02,960
you know if you would have asked those

4187
02:47:06,309 --> 02:47:04,800
questions out of er

4188
02:47:07,910 --> 02:47:06,319
you know of me i would you would have

4189
02:47:10,950 --> 02:47:07,920
got a lot more information

4190
02:47:14,870 --> 02:47:10,960
okay well let me ask you this

4191
02:47:19,269 --> 02:47:14,880
um the the x marks the spot

4192
02:47:22,070 --> 02:47:19,279
description here um how close was the x

4193
02:47:25,910 --> 02:47:25,429
where we found yeah we found yeah 30

4194
02:47:34,550 --> 02:47:25,920
feet

4195
02:47:37,750 --> 02:47:34,560
discovered there

4196
02:47:39,510 --> 02:47:37,760
uh probably probably yeah it's you know

4197
02:47:42,389 --> 02:47:39,520
we were limited in time

4198
02:47:44,710 --> 02:47:42,399
and we're talking about something that

4199
02:47:48,710 --> 02:47:44,720
dates back to the revolutionary war

4200
02:47:51,429 --> 02:47:48,720
era right and so um a lot has changed

4201
02:47:53,030 --> 02:47:51,439
vegetation has changed trees have grown

4202
02:47:55,830 --> 02:47:53,040
so

4203
02:47:56,790 --> 02:47:55,840
but it did we we did hit i was confident

4204
02:48:00,150 --> 02:47:56,800
that we were on

4205
02:48:03,349 --> 02:48:00,160
x marks the spot or close to it and

4206
02:48:05,910 --> 02:48:03,359
it turns out we were we were now um

4207
02:48:07,110 --> 02:48:05,920
uh what what did you think that you were

4208
02:48:10,230 --> 02:48:07,120
in pursuit of

4209
02:48:12,790 --> 02:48:10,240
scott i mean you know

4210
02:48:14,630 --> 02:48:12,800
with you it's we we identified the

4211
02:48:16,870 --> 02:48:14,640
knights templar to you

4212
02:48:18,309 --> 02:48:16,880
yes is that what you were on the trail

4213
02:48:20,710 --> 02:48:18,319
of

4214
02:48:22,150 --> 02:48:20,720
yeah essentially yes um but you have to

4215
02:48:25,190 --> 02:48:22,160
remember the

4216
02:48:26,230 --> 02:48:25,200
the medieval templars handed off the

4217
02:48:28,790 --> 02:48:26,240
obligation

4218
02:48:30,710 --> 02:48:28,800
eventually to the founding fathers

4219
02:48:33,830 --> 02:48:30,720
through freemasonry

4220
02:48:37,349 --> 02:48:33,840
so this chapter of the

4221
02:48:39,830 --> 02:48:37,359
story that this treasure was involved in

4222
02:48:40,870 --> 02:48:39,840
uh was was during the revolutionary war

4223
02:48:44,230 --> 02:48:40,880
era

4224
02:48:47,269 --> 02:48:44,240
and there is a name associated with

4225
02:48:50,950 --> 02:48:47,279
with this particular project and that

4226
02:48:54,389 --> 02:48:50,960
name is general lafayette

4227
02:48:57,670 --> 02:48:54,399
lafayette as in lafayette indiana

4228
02:48:59,670 --> 02:48:57,680
the lafayette right the lafayette yes he

4229
02:49:02,469 --> 02:48:59,680
is connected to this story

4230
02:49:02,950 --> 02:49:02,479
and specifically to this treasure hunt

4231
02:49:06,469 --> 02:49:02,960
okay

4232
02:49:11,110 --> 02:49:06,479
um and in in what aspect was the

4233
02:49:14,870 --> 02:49:11,120
object given to him and he buried it

4234
02:49:18,389 --> 02:49:14,880
uh nope we think

4235
02:49:20,790 --> 02:49:18,399
it was the other way around uh what do

4236
02:49:20,800 --> 02:49:24,230
it was left for him

4237
02:49:24,240 --> 02:49:28,950
it was a payment oh

4238
02:49:34,710 --> 02:49:32,230
oh no wait a minute so we're talking

4239
02:49:38,070 --> 02:49:34,720
about treasure treasure

4240
02:49:41,349 --> 02:49:38,080
did i say that yeah wow

4241
02:49:43,750 --> 02:49:41,359
um what help me out

4242
02:49:44,469 --> 02:49:43,760
scott just i i have to know i mean the

4243
02:49:47,510 --> 02:49:44,479
obvious one

4244
02:49:47,990 --> 02:49:47,520
what was it was it was it was it in a

4245
02:49:51,670 --> 02:49:48,000
bag

4246
02:49:54,309 --> 02:49:51,680
was it was it by itself was it

4247
02:49:56,150 --> 02:49:54,319
was it in the treasure let me just say

4248
02:49:59,349 --> 02:49:56,160
this let me just say this

4249
02:50:02,790 --> 02:49:59,359
this this is one chapter

4250
02:50:05,910 --> 02:50:02,800
this treasure hunt in the story of this

4251
02:50:08,950 --> 02:50:05,920
this story with this chapter um

4252
02:50:11,030 --> 02:50:08,960
is part of a a big book

4253
02:50:13,429 --> 02:50:11,040
called the cremona document right this

4254
02:50:17,429 --> 02:50:13,439
is this is something that just came

4255
02:50:21,429 --> 02:50:17,439
to us in the last seven months

4256
02:50:23,830 --> 02:50:21,439
and it it's been and so much has

4257
02:50:25,190 --> 02:50:23,840
showed up here in the last year in this

4258
02:50:29,750 --> 02:50:25,200
story

4259
02:50:32,230 --> 02:50:29,760
it's incredible i will be talking to

4260
02:50:34,309 --> 02:50:32,240
a production company on thursday and

4261
02:50:35,590 --> 02:50:34,319
they don't even know about this yet

4262
02:50:38,070 --> 02:50:35,600
but they're interested in doing

4263
02:50:39,190 --> 02:50:38,080
something with us about the subject

4264
02:50:41,110 --> 02:50:39,200
matter

4265
02:50:42,309 --> 02:50:41,120
but when they hear this they're going to

4266
02:50:45,510 --> 02:50:42,319
go crazy

4267
02:50:47,510 --> 02:50:45,520
and the other thing is is that on the

4268
02:50:49,429 --> 02:50:47,520
last trip that we just got back from

4269
02:50:51,429 --> 02:50:49,439
about three weeks ago

4270
02:50:53,030 --> 02:50:51,439
i had brought a bunch of documents with

4271
02:50:55,510 --> 02:50:53,040
me that i had

4272
02:50:56,150 --> 02:50:55,520
put in a folder and i had i had not

4273
02:50:57,910 --> 02:50:56,160
looked at

4274
02:51:00,070 --> 02:50:57,920
since i got them and it's a long story

4275
02:51:02,389 --> 02:51:00,080
how i got them but i won't go into

4276
02:51:03,429 --> 02:51:02,399
but one of the documents that we pulled

4277
02:51:07,510 --> 02:51:03,439
out

4278
02:51:11,429 --> 02:51:07,520
was a letter from 1657

4279
02:51:15,349 --> 02:51:11,439
the original letter um

4280
02:51:18,150 --> 02:51:15,359
and it's dated it's two a person

4281
02:51:19,670 --> 02:51:18,160
there's there's it's written in french

4282
02:51:23,269 --> 02:51:19,680
and then signed by a guy named

4283
02:51:25,670 --> 02:51:23,279
uh abraham

4284
02:51:28,389 --> 02:51:25,680
but in the lower left corner the open

4285
02:51:31,510 --> 02:51:28,399
space of this letter

4286
02:51:33,990 --> 02:51:31,520
there's a there was an invisible map

4287
02:51:36,230 --> 02:51:34,000
that was brought out by a colleague of

4288
02:51:39,510 --> 02:51:36,240
the guy that got the information

4289
02:51:42,070 --> 02:51:39,520
using lemon juice and a heat lamp

4290
02:51:44,309 --> 02:51:42,080
and the there there's a map that was

4291
02:51:48,230 --> 02:51:44,319
hidden on this letter

4292
02:51:51,269 --> 02:51:48,240
and this map proves

4293
02:51:52,790 --> 02:51:51,279
beyond any question that the entire

4294
02:51:56,309 --> 02:51:52,800
document that we're dealing with

4295
02:51:57,190 --> 02:51:56,319
is legitimate we already knew that

4296
02:51:59,030 --> 02:51:57,200
because

4297
02:52:00,469 --> 02:51:59,040
a month or two before when we went on

4298
02:52:02,309 --> 02:52:00,479
the treasure hunt

4299
02:52:03,670 --> 02:52:02,319
we proved to ourselves the story was

4300
02:52:05,990 --> 02:52:03,680
true already

4301
02:52:06,790 --> 02:52:06,000
and then this letter shows up this is

4302
02:52:10,150 --> 02:52:06,800
the most

4303
02:52:10,870 --> 02:52:10,160
incredible story that the world has

4304
02:52:12,870 --> 02:52:10,880
never heard

4305
02:52:15,110 --> 02:52:12,880
if if you like templars if you like

4306
02:52:16,870 --> 02:52:15,120
freemasonry if you want to understand

4307
02:52:19,429 --> 02:52:16,880
the true founding of this country

4308
02:52:19,910 --> 02:52:19,439
which quite frankly would be nice to

4309
02:52:24,230 --> 02:52:19,920
tell

4310
02:52:26,550 --> 02:52:24,240
people today to remind them

4311
02:52:27,510 --> 02:52:26,560
of the tenants upon which this nation

4312
02:52:30,389 --> 02:52:27,520
was founded

4313
02:52:32,230 --> 02:52:30,399
that we have frankly forgotten and i

4314
02:52:34,150 --> 02:52:32,240
don't want to get too preachy here

4315
02:52:36,070 --> 02:52:34,160
but at the end of the day that is part

4316
02:52:38,150 --> 02:52:36,080
of what this story

4317
02:52:39,990 --> 02:52:38,160
i think should be about because what

4318
02:52:43,030 --> 02:52:40,000
you're gonna hear

4319
02:52:44,150 --> 02:52:43,040
are the stories first hand written by

4320
02:52:46,790 --> 02:52:44,160
the people that

4321
02:52:47,910 --> 02:52:46,800
nobody knows about you will know some of

4322
02:52:50,950 --> 02:52:47,920
the people

4323
02:52:54,070 --> 02:52:50,960
like general lafayette like abraham

4324
02:52:56,070 --> 02:52:54,080
or benjamin franklin and some other

4325
02:52:57,670 --> 02:52:56,080
names that aren't quite as well known

4326
02:52:59,670 --> 02:52:57,680
as those but there are a whole bunch of

4327
02:53:00,710 --> 02:52:59,680
names of people that nobody have ever

4328
02:53:03,910 --> 02:53:00,720
heard

4329
02:53:07,590 --> 02:53:03,920
who in my opinion the what they did

4330
02:53:10,550 --> 02:53:07,600
to get those treasures back here to help

4331
02:53:12,790 --> 02:53:10,560
fund the revolution that led to the

4332
02:53:13,910 --> 02:53:12,800
defeating the british and founding this

4333
02:53:16,150 --> 02:53:13,920
nation

4334
02:53:17,510 --> 02:53:16,160
they deserve as much credit as george

4335
02:53:19,910 --> 02:53:17,520
washington franklin

4336
02:53:21,429 --> 02:53:19,920
jefferson all the rest of them they did

4337
02:53:25,269 --> 02:53:21,439
it quietly

4338
02:53:28,150 --> 02:53:25,279
and they told no one not a soul

4339
02:53:30,150 --> 02:53:28,160
but it was recorded it was hidden and

4340
02:53:32,790 --> 02:53:30,160
now it's ready to be revealed

4341
02:53:33,830 --> 02:53:32,800
jim you won't believe the story it is so

4342
02:53:36,230 --> 02:53:33,840
amazing

4343
02:53:37,030 --> 02:53:36,240
and its time has come because now we

4344
02:53:40,550 --> 02:53:37,040
have proven

4345
02:53:43,590 --> 02:53:40,560
without beyond any doubt it happened

4346
02:53:47,110 --> 02:53:43,600
well you and i have covered uh

4347
02:53:49,429 --> 02:53:47,120
uh every aspect that we could

4348
02:53:52,070 --> 02:53:49,439
uh about the cremona document over the

4349
02:53:54,630 --> 02:53:52,080
last few years and i've been waiting for

4350
02:53:56,230 --> 02:53:54,640
uh some some closure on this like

4351
02:53:57,190 --> 02:53:56,240
everybody has and i hope that we're on

4352
02:54:00,230 --> 02:53:57,200
the brink of that

4353
02:54:03,269 --> 02:54:00,240
but i wanna we are we are we are there

4354
02:54:03,910 --> 02:54:03,279
that we are there and we're ready we're

4355
02:54:07,830 --> 02:54:03,920
ready to

4356
02:54:11,830 --> 02:54:07,840
when you guys were

4357
02:54:14,550 --> 02:54:11,840
in north carolina on the island uh

4358
02:54:15,510 --> 02:54:14,560
this is an archaeological situation this

4359
02:54:18,630 --> 02:54:15,520
is a dead

4360
02:54:19,429 --> 02:54:18,640
uh did you guys uh document everything

4361
02:54:22,550 --> 02:54:19,439
video

4362
02:54:24,230 --> 02:54:22,560
and absolutely so we had a camera going

4363
02:54:30,309 --> 02:54:24,240
the entire time

4364
02:54:32,070 --> 02:54:30,319
when the time comes i'll send you a

4365
02:54:36,389 --> 02:54:32,080
short clip

4366
02:54:39,830 --> 02:54:38,710
you will go you will get just as caught

4367
02:54:41,429 --> 02:54:39,840
up your

4368
02:54:43,349 --> 02:54:41,439
the hair will stand up in the back your

4369
02:54:45,670 --> 02:54:43,359
neck i'm not even kidding because

4370
02:54:46,950 --> 02:54:45,680
i'm sitting here and all of a sudden i

4371
02:54:49,269 --> 02:54:46,960
just heard this word

4372
02:54:50,469 --> 02:54:49,279
and i'm like what the and i ran over

4373
02:54:53,830 --> 02:54:50,479
there and i was

4374
02:55:00,830 --> 02:54:53,840
stunned does janet say

4375
02:55:04,870 --> 02:55:02,469
[\h__\h]

4376
02:55:06,870 --> 02:55:04,880
oh man there were a few other uh

4377
02:55:10,230 --> 02:55:06,880
eppenheimers that were rolling around

4378
02:55:10,630 --> 02:55:10,240
in excitement it was it was no it was

4379
02:55:12,710 --> 02:55:10,640
yeah

4380
02:55:15,190 --> 02:55:12,720
look everybody was excited you know we

4381
02:55:18,550 --> 02:55:15,200
were all yeah i can't wait

4382
02:55:21,910 --> 02:55:18,560
i can't wait to see it and uh

4383
02:55:22,630 --> 02:55:21,920
wow well you know the thing is i know

4384
02:55:24,469 --> 02:55:22,640
that

4385
02:55:26,710 --> 02:55:24,479
uh when you guys were on your way down

4386
02:55:29,750 --> 02:55:26,720
there uh when you were on the show

4387
02:55:32,790 --> 02:55:29,760
you were you were very uh

4388
02:55:33,590 --> 02:55:32,800
hopeful you guys you guys felt at that

4389
02:55:36,230 --> 02:55:33,600
time

4390
02:55:37,030 --> 02:55:36,240
now i know ultimately what happened but

4391
02:55:39,990 --> 02:55:37,040
you felt

4392
02:55:40,950 --> 02:55:40,000
pretty confident that you were on your

4393
02:55:45,110 --> 02:55:40,960
way

4394
02:55:47,269 --> 02:55:45,120
uh to to something pretty extraordinary

4395
02:55:49,750 --> 02:55:47,279
we were and there was a reason for that

4396
02:55:51,510 --> 02:55:49,760
because i've spent 14 years working on

4397
02:55:53,910 --> 02:55:51,520
this damn document

4398
02:55:54,950 --> 02:55:53,920
and it's such a complicated story

4399
02:55:57,349 --> 02:55:54,960
there's so many

4400
02:55:57,990 --> 02:55:57,359
you know tangents here but we're talking

4401
02:56:01,510 --> 02:55:58,000
about something

4402
02:56:02,870 --> 02:56:01,520
that spans you know almost 900 years of

4403
02:56:05,269 --> 02:56:02,880
history the earliest

4404
02:56:06,309 --> 02:56:05,279
part of the document is in the early

4405
02:56:07,830 --> 02:56:06,319
12th century

4406
02:56:09,750 --> 02:56:07,840
that's right and then the late 12th

4407
02:56:11,750 --> 02:56:09,760
century and then the mid to late 14th

4408
02:56:12,550 --> 02:56:11,760
century and then this revolutionary war

4409
02:56:14,469 --> 02:56:12,560
period

4410
02:56:16,150 --> 02:56:14,479
and everything is sort of strung

4411
02:56:18,389 --> 02:56:16,160
together once you sort of

4412
02:56:19,510 --> 02:56:18,399
it's it's been very difficult to put it

4413
02:56:22,550 --> 02:56:19,520
all together

4414
02:56:24,790 --> 02:56:22,560
but this particular piece

4415
02:56:27,510 --> 02:56:24,800
we were very confident of because the

4416
02:56:30,230 --> 02:56:27,520
guy who dug it all up who has been dead

4417
02:56:33,910 --> 02:56:30,240
for 21 years now

4418
02:56:35,190 --> 02:56:33,920
wrote a letter and don read it and i

4419
02:56:38,469 --> 02:56:35,200
recorded this with

4420
02:56:42,150 --> 02:56:38,479
two cameras and it was chilling

4421
02:56:44,550 --> 02:56:42,160
because i've researched this guy

4422
02:56:46,469 --> 02:56:44,560
i've listened to don tell me about this

4423
02:56:48,630 --> 02:56:46,479
guy was his best friend

4424
02:56:50,230 --> 02:56:48,640
and this best friend left this treasure

4425
02:56:52,790 --> 02:56:50,240
hunt for don

4426
02:56:53,590 --> 02:56:52,800
and don was right there in fact he was

4427
02:57:05,590 --> 02:56:53,600
he

4428
02:57:08,550 --> 02:57:05,600
guy who's normally reserved

4429
02:57:09,670 --> 02:57:08,560
and very clinical kind of lose his stuff

4430
02:57:12,630 --> 02:57:09,680
for a while

4431
02:57:13,269 --> 02:57:12,640
was really um it was really awesome wow

4432
02:57:16,469 --> 02:57:13,279
how i

4433
02:57:19,030 --> 02:57:16,479
i mean how often does it happen where

4434
02:57:22,230 --> 02:57:19,040
you go to x marks the spot

4435
02:57:24,230 --> 02:57:22,240
and and you dig something up it's like

4436
02:57:25,590 --> 02:57:24,240
never the first time for me yeah it's

4437
02:57:28,389 --> 02:57:25,600
never time for me

4438
02:57:29,830 --> 02:57:28,399
the answer is never yeah never yeah the

4439
02:57:32,630 --> 02:57:29,840
answer is never

4440
02:57:33,349 --> 02:57:32,640
extraordinary it was it was really so we

4441
02:57:35,030 --> 02:57:33,359
were

4442
02:57:36,790 --> 02:57:35,040
and i'll be honest with you i was like

4443
02:57:37,910 --> 02:57:36,800
well you know we're probably not gonna

4444
02:57:39,429 --> 02:57:37,920
find anything but you know what you

4445
02:57:42,790 --> 02:57:39,439
don't find anything unless you look

4446
02:57:45,030 --> 02:57:42,800
right so what the heck and

4447
02:57:46,550 --> 02:57:45,040
there's even more irony to this story

4448
02:57:48,070 --> 02:57:46,560
that we'll share with you later when we

4449
02:57:48,950 --> 02:57:48,080
can tell you the whole story and it'll

4450
02:57:51,990 --> 02:57:48,960
all make sense

4451
02:57:54,550 --> 02:57:52,000
it's a great story jim and we promise

4452
02:57:57,349 --> 02:57:54,560
when we can talk you'll be the first

4453
02:58:01,590 --> 02:57:57,359
well i appreciate that one last question

4454
02:58:04,150 --> 02:58:01,600
precious metal was it gold

4455
02:58:05,349 --> 02:58:04,160
so i can either i can either confirm nor

4456
02:58:10,230 --> 02:58:05,359
deny

4457
02:58:13,349 --> 02:58:10,240
so it was gold were any gemstones

4458
02:58:16,469 --> 02:58:13,359
huh gemstones did you say something

4459
02:58:19,590 --> 02:58:16,479
wow man okay

4460
02:58:21,910 --> 02:58:19,600
i expect i i expect i'm wondering

4461
02:58:23,030 --> 02:58:21,920
i hate doing that to you but you i know

4462
02:58:25,190 --> 02:58:23,040
you understand

4463
02:58:27,110 --> 02:58:25,200
you're doing your job and i'm doing mine

4464
02:58:29,429 --> 02:58:27,120
and i know that you're gonna text

4465
02:58:30,150 --> 02:58:29,439
me a really cool picture because you

4466
02:58:33,429 --> 02:58:30,160
know

4467
02:58:34,790 --> 02:58:33,439
i will keep it to myself scott look at

4468
02:58:37,990 --> 02:58:34,800
him he's working this so hard

4469
02:58:40,070 --> 02:58:38,000
hey hey scott great can i thank you i i

4470
02:58:41,750 --> 02:58:40,080
got to thank jan for the world premiere

4471
02:58:43,269 --> 02:58:41,760
on fade to black that was really cool

4472
02:58:45,590 --> 02:58:43,279
thank you so much jan

4473
02:58:47,990 --> 02:58:45,600
all right hey jimmy all kidding aside

4474
02:58:50,790 --> 02:58:48,000
you know we love you and we appreciate

4475
02:58:51,990 --> 02:58:50,800
everything you do for us and we we we

4476
02:58:53,910 --> 02:58:52,000
have so much fun

4477
02:58:55,590 --> 02:58:53,920
and i did pin you down with a question

4478
02:58:56,630 --> 02:58:55,600
but you handle it like a champ like you

4479
02:58:58,309 --> 02:58:56,640
always do so

4480
02:59:00,150 --> 02:58:58,319
i can't wait for the next time and

4481
02:59:02,309 --> 02:59:00,160
please greet giorgio

4482
02:59:03,429 --> 02:59:02,319
and dave for me tomorrow i certainly

4483
02:59:05,750 --> 02:59:03,439
will okay

4484
02:59:06,950 --> 02:59:05,760
thank you when you talk to her i i will

4485
02:59:10,150 --> 02:59:06,960
see her shortly

4486
02:59:11,910 --> 02:59:10,160
and uh uh for dinner uh because i do

4487
02:59:13,910 --> 02:59:11,920
dinner after the show but

4488
02:59:16,309 --> 02:59:13,920
uh and she's listening now thank you so

4489
02:59:17,990 --> 02:59:16,319
much scott all the best to you and jan

4490
02:59:20,389 --> 02:59:18,000
enjoy the rest of your night drink that

4491
02:59:21,510 --> 02:59:20,399
beer and uh we'll talk over the weekend

4492
02:59:22,870 --> 02:59:21,520
thank you so much

4493
02:59:25,190 --> 02:59:22,880
all right sounds good i'll keep you

4494
02:59:26,710 --> 02:59:25,200
posted what a great show tonight scott

4495
02:59:29,910 --> 02:59:26,720
walter now you can go too

4496
02:59:32,389 --> 02:59:29,920
it's very simple hookedx.com that

4497
02:59:33,429 --> 02:59:32,399
is over at jimmychurchradio.com the

4498
02:59:36,469 --> 02:59:33,439
links are right there

4499
02:59:38,150 --> 02:59:36,479
and of course scott walter answers right

4500
02:59:40,830 --> 02:59:38,160
there blockspot.com

4501
02:59:41,990 --> 02:59:40,840
the links to that are over at

4502
02:59:43,670 --> 02:59:42,000
jimmychurchradio.com

4503
02:59:45,830 --> 02:59:43,680
with that i'm going to get out of here

4504
02:59:47,670 --> 02:59:45,840
fade to black's executive producers rita

4505
02:59:50,469 --> 02:59:47,680
kamarian

4506
02:59:51,990 --> 02:59:50,479
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4507
02:59:54,230 --> 02:59:52,000
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4508
02:59:55,670 --> 02:59:54,240
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4509
02:59:57,830 --> 02:59:55,680
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4510
03:00:01,830 --> 02:59:57,840
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4511
03:00:03,990 --> 03:00:01,840
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4512
03:00:05,830 --> 03:00:04,000
beta black is produced by kjcr for the

4513
03:00:06,950 --> 03:00:05,840
game changer network and syndication is

4514
03:00:09,030 --> 03:00:06,960
kgra

4515
03:00:11,670 --> 03:00:09,040
the planet this broadcast zona

4516
03:00:13,510 --> 03:00:11,680
copyrighted 2021 by fade to black in the

4517
03:00:15,510 --> 03:00:13,520
game changer network e

4518
03:00:17,190 --> 03:00:15,520
it cannot be rebroadcast downloaded

4519
03:00:17,910 --> 03:00:17,200
copied or used anywhere in the known

4520
03:00:19,590 --> 03:00:17,920
universe

4521
03:00:21,750 --> 03:00:19,600
without written permission from baby

4522
03:00:24,469 --> 03:00:21,760
black of the game changer network

4523
03:00:25,590 --> 03:00:24,479
tomorrow night giorgio soucalos and dave

4524
03:00:27,830 --> 03:00:25,600
schrader

4525
03:00:30,389 --> 03:00:27,840
closing out tv week here on fade to

4526
03:00:38,560 --> 03:00:30,399
black until then be safe

4527
03:00:41,220 --> 03:00:38,570
it's time to fade to black

4528
03:01:00,320 --> 03:00:41,230
[Applause]

4529
03:01:18,830 --> 03:01:04,830
[Music]